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Where does it say that in the New Testament?

Prentis, you are getting better all the time. Very perceptive in this case. I understand what you mean even if others do not. To add a small point to what you have said. Jesus said he would build HIS church, not ours. Like you, I have a feeling that the writing is on the wall for "our church"...

And you obviously have not seen a man who is drunk. And some have and know the spirit behind your comments but we are too polite to tell you.

The only reason it is an utterly ridiculous response to you is the fact that it is true and you have no credible response to refute the analogy.

Funny you should say that. Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church quotes a lot of scriptures to support his hateful campaigns and the homosexuals campaign to normalise homosexuality has been littered with scripture. Are they authoritative because they do that?

Not necessarily. It may mean I have been to the denominational bible college and learned what the denomination teaches which may not be what the bible teaches. In another forum, there was an article "What are the five qualities of a good pastor?" He drew on the qualities for an aspiring elder...

I can give you a real example of that. I was a founding member of a church and all went well until I said that I wasn't sure about ONE doctrine as I was still working through what I believed. I was open to persuasion. What happened? The so called pastor told the minister of the congregation he...

I know I am going to regret this but.....I did not say it was a pity response. I said it was a "pity me" response which is quite different. I believe that all the cults and weirdos, give scripture but that doesn't make them and you right. If fact, saying you are right because you quote...

You are so funny jiggyfly. How about we start a church for those who don't take themselves too seriously? Whilst I enjoyed what you said overall, I cannot agree to this. My impression is that participants have no idea about demons roaming the earth and in all probability would say you are a bit...

1. having a single preacher over a church is nowhere to be found in scripture. I did a two year study of the New Testament Church (NTC) and the pattern outside of the Jerusalem church was apostles who went to new territory to share the good news of Jesus with the assistance of prophets; bring...

I feel as though I have just had two helpings of Steak and Chips and not a glass of milk in sight. Nice try FHII, but I don't fall for those pity me responses. In a word, I don't believe anything you said is supported by the scriptures as you would realize if you had read my posts on the subject.

So right Prentice, so right, especially for one who is so young (compared to this old fox). And I would add it is no different to the church in the UK, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and most of western nations. Here in Australia we are facing a homosexual holocaust and all the church does is...

But I can't see any evidence that they were picked because of their education. In fact it seems that the most important qualification for those chosen by God is to serve, not have authority over which education and pastors seem to do most of the time as in "I am educated so I am more qualified...

So what you are saying is that you can only be filled with the pure word of God if you are paid to be a christian? That would rule out Derek Prince one of the greatest expositors of scripture of the last century. He had no theological degree and he was not paid by a church. He lived of his...

How about answering the questions? You have obviously not seen anyone who is drunk.

And where does it say all this in scripture? As I see it offerings in scripture were for the purpose of supporting Apostles whilst they were travelling, the poor and the needy and widows that devoted themselves to prayer so they could not earn an income. Not ONCE does it say they are to be...

Yes it is a great read and......beautiful kids musterion. The back one looks like my granddaughter Zoe and they look about the same age.

A good bit of Aussie humour Suhar. Although I get the feeling that some of them would not be satisfied with tents. So right Arnie. I have to admit that I get a bit sick in the stomach when I visit a church and am asked "would you like to meet Pastor Harry Up (himself)?" My immediate response...

No, I haven't but it sounds as though I should so I will. I know this is anecdotal, but very informative nonetheless. A pastor of a church was approached about doing something different as a means to advance the church. His eventual reply was that the church (denomination) pays his wages and...