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ahhhh, stacking, packing and overflowing oozes out of the collective consciousness of humanity.

@ Hazelelponi I hope my reply in post # 87 hasn't 'spun' you out. I have mentioned the slaughtered lamb in the middle of the throne a few times on the forum here and have only drawn a blank from others. I wonder why that is? Is it because folk have no idea what I'm referencing? Is it because...

This is an example of the writer's bias. Hebrews believed that everything both good and bad was God's doing. Here God is blamed/ given responsibility for Uzzah's death.....as he was for Saul's death, as he was for the death of Ananias and Sapphira, as he was for the genocide of those Israel...

The scripture/ prophets have used this struggle between these ethnicities not to give us a blow for blow account of who kicks whose butt nationally but rather has used them as types in the battle between good and evil. I also think that if our hopes and focus is specifically on the outcome of...

I think the struggle is, and the prophecies are, greater than just ethnicities not seeing eye to eye. The scripture extends the meaning of Israel as a metaphor for all of God's people and the enemy is the Devil working through those who care not for God's heart. The battle is cosmic. It is...

yeah, i did make that connection re the fighting.

I s'pose naivety and inexperience are bedfellows of stupidity......but I must add, stupidity has a raft of bedfellows.

No not really. I've drawn the conclusions I have from the record of Hagar's encounter with the angel but I've never had it confirmed by anyone of that linage. Out of interest, my sister married a Bedouin but it didn't last long. He insisted after the marriage that any children would be educated...

I'm not surprised many folks shy away from your description of God and I don't blame them. The injustice of an eternity in Hell (as you imagine it) sounds more like something the Devil would do

how is 'honour' understood by them?

I guess they figure their birthright was usurped by Issac? or don't they acknowledge Issac's reality at all?

and they recognise their linage ?

It is referring to those who have had a life changing encounter with the Holy Spirit.

Hagar's encountered the angel of the Lord in the desert. What was said about Ishmael is interesting. I have assumed Ishmael is the Father of the Arab clan....Is this correct? Genesis 16:11-12 The angel of the Lord also said to her: “You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son...

further.... Exodus 20:11 'Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. Did God at some point revoke his blessing and that of making it holy?

Exodus 20:8-11 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any...

I think 'should' is not needed. We will respond according to the compassion or lack of that we have. He who has been forgiven much, loves much.

Hobie, I am not saying Jesus broke the Law but it appears you think I am saying that.

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