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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Many translations do not say these martyred saints must come to life. Consider for instance KJV that simply says, "they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." John sees these martyred souls alive even after death. Because in time (symbolized a thousand years) they lived (past tense)...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    This is true! Whoever is not part of the resurrection life through Christ, the first resurrection have not overcome the second death. V 4...."they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Pay close attention to vs 6 because it says only they who have part in the first resurrection...
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    2 Peter 3:10 The Big Whoosh

    The Kingdom is NOT of this earth even though it is within believers. How can that be? Christ tells us. His Kingdom though within the heart of believers cannot be observed, nor is it now of this world. Apparently possessing the Kingdom of God within does not mean it is ON this earth. Why...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    4.11.5 - Millennial Reign of Messiah The book of Revelation describes saints who are resurrected at the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom. Since the very first sentence of the article establishes the error the article is built upon, it would be a waste of time to consider it. The book of...
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    2 Peter 3:10 The Big Whoosh

    There was never a physical Kingdom of God promised to come to this earth! The millennialists, like the Pharisees must have a physical Kingdom on this earth because you and they lack understanding of the Spiritual Kingdom Christ brought when He came. Since the Pharisees along with...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    I would say the same thing about having these discussions with millennialists, but truth is I am committed to expose error and promote Biblical truths, especially to those who profess faith but have been deceived by lies. I too once embraced millennialism, but I was challenged by a loving...
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    2 Peter 3:10 The Big Whoosh

    Of course the Kingdom exists NOW. But just like the Pharisees of old they are still looking for a physical manifestation of the Kingdom on this earth. They must otherwise their doctrine is blown away. Christ proves He came with His Kingdom when He said: Matthew 12:28 (KJV) But if I cast out...
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    2 Peter 3:10 The Big Whoosh

    Right! How could they not deny the obvious, they have the videos to support. To admit what the Bible clearly says would expose the videos as the erroneous doctrine they are.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Of course we pray "thy Kingdom come, they will be done on earth as it is in heaven". Why do we pray this? Would we pray that for this earth that is not eternal, but destined to be burned up? We pray that while on this earth because we look forward to the Kingdom being complete, when we will...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Should I believe you, or should I believe what is clearly written in Scripture? The land covenant was only forever IF they kept covenant with God. They did not, so they lost the promised land God had given them. Why did they not obey God, as He commanded them to? The land gift was with the...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    I could not identify spiritual re-birth as resurrection life if the Bible did not say we who WERE DEAD have been quickened (MADE ALIVE) in Christ. But the Bible explicitly says this. Paul says we were dead in sins spiritually until we were made alive in Christ by grace through faith. If that...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    You say: "The Palestinian Covenant, also called the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 30:1-10) Abraham did go to the Promised Land, he did have many descendants, and he is the father of many nations. Joshua led the Israelites to claim ownership of the promised Land. >>>BUT specific boundaries were...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Christ did that when He came to earth a man, but they rejected Him. They looked for the promised Messiah to come and usher in a physical Kingdom upon this earth. They were wrong, just as you are wrong to think that Christ will come to set up His Kingdom on this earth. Christ came with His...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    This is where you err. Those translations make no sense because when man while alive partakes of the resurrection life through Christ, the first resurrection, THEY NEVER DIE! Since physical death has no power over those who have died as Christians, why would they need to come to life AGAIN...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    My understanding of grammar is just fine. However, you are not making sense! How does the first resurrection, Christ's resurrection, that saves us keep those who are saved in Him from being saved after they die? We are eternally secure in Christ because we have part in His resurrection life...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    That's good, because Rev 20 doesn't tell us the first resurrection is physical!
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Of course they were beheaded! I've never said otherwise. What you don't seem to understand is death has no power over those who have partaken of Christ in life. That is to have part in the "first resurrection" the resurrection of Christ SPIRITUALLY! When we have part in Christ's resurrection...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    Those who understand the first resurrection will tell you these saints died for their faith in Christ, who is the first resurrection, because He is the resurrection and the life, and not even death can keep us from Him. There are only two resurrections mentioned in Scripture, they are the...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    I've got a newsflash for you, people have been worshipping Satan since the dawn of mankind!
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

    What argument? We're saying the same thing! My reply was in response this comment from you, specifically what I highlighted, "I guess you Amillennials just symbolize away who the Beast is, what the mark on their foreheads was and how many of these beheaded souls came to life and reigned with...