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Your eye doesn't have the propensity to have sexual thoughts. Looking with lust means you are looking and imagining lustful thoughts at the same time.

Be free from perversion, and enslaved to purity--God despises immorality and will destroy the immoral.

I'd listen to a debate/presentation on the subject to inform myself.

If we are going around constantly being attracted to others clearly there is a problem because that is not "freedom" from self and slavery to righteousness.

Yes. In the context of a condemnation of the sin of adultery (including imagining), what the hand does is condemned--this could refer to nothing other than masturbation. Matthew 5 27“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28But I say to you that everyone who looks at...

Another user had a difference with me on Romans 3:31, but it wasn't the topic on that thread (the topic was whether or not Christians had to serve by the Law), so I created this thread to discuss the meaning of the phrase. Just a quick skim through of the thread should satisfy any further...

So, the word "curse" is used here. How is it used? Is it used to describe the Law as a curse? No, it warns that people are cursed if they rely on the works of the Law. You misunderstood Paul--he furnishes no proof for your purport that the Law is a curse--here. So, the word "curse" is used...

I've already responded : all of those verses say that the Law pronounces a curse on the unrighteous, not that the Law is Itself a curse. Well, thanks for giving me the opportunity to both expose you and edify everyone at the same time.

Romans 3:31 does not relate to "The law is in effect for the ungodly and unholy sinners" since Paul says "we establish the Law by faith" which does not relate to sinners. You have to keep "the faith" in mind. Now, what do you think Paul meant by Romans 3:31?

So, what does Paul think of the Law? He uses many positive adjectives to describe the Law and the good which it commanded Jews to do. Romans 7 7What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? Far from it! ... 12So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. 13Therefore...

So, you have no answers right?

Actually, having read your objection against Paul's explicit statement, I now see that I was misunderstanding you--your empty objection is actually a twisting of Paul's words : Paul says "we establish the law by faith", and you object to him "no one went backwards and was present at Mount Sinai...

Excellent. Yeah, Paul knows the Jewish objection (he was addressing the Jews in the Roman Church) : "Any prophet who tries to take us away from God's Commandments is a false prophet!" Deuteronomy 13:1-11 Paul is saying, "Don't worry about that--we establish the Law!" He already stated that...

1. Grailhunter is obviously in denial. He admitted the law was established by faith, he only objected to my understanding of how that happened. 2. Confused and forgetful of his own concession, he here militates against Paul--"No, Paul, the law is not established by faith!" 3. Hardly have I met a...

I said faith established the Law. Grailhunter then objected, stating the Law was not established by faith. Grailhunter then went back on his statement and agreed. I have not twisted his words. Grailhunter is not seeing things properly. I'm not sure if Grailhunter is trying to give me a trick...

"Iron sharpens iron" : we are edified by discussion of what we opine the Bible states.

No more off-topic replies here please. Go here to discuss the topic.

I don't go off-topic in my threads--I try not to anyway--so here we have a thread just for your little gripe. I don't plan to change your mind only to make an open show of you. I said : Wrangler responded : You then mistakenly tried to correct me : You then corrected your mistake and agreed...

You don't read carefully. That was a word for word quote. Romans 3:31 Do we then nullify the Law through faith? Far from it! On the contrary, we establish the Law. And? The same guy wrote Romans 3:31. You are completely confused. Too many errors to keep responding. Doesn't matter anyway...