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Prior to their disobedience, Adam and Eve did not have Eternal life, nor were they evil or good. One cannot be good or evil, if they don't have the "knowledge of good and evil". IOWs, they were created innocent, and without Eternal life.

I don't think you understand! Every person who was/is NOT born again of/by His Holy Spirit SINCE Pentecost, was/is a child of the devil by default. IOWS, prior to Pentecost, Peter and the Pharisees were on equal ground! Neither had the Holy Spirit. When satan spoke through Peter, that was...

^ Heb. 2[9] But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

You need to understand that, even though the damage was done for every person generated through Adam, God did not leave Adam and Eve without His Grace, that they could not repent and be saved for eternity through faith. It is apparent that even then, that God provided the sacrifice for them...

Evidently the Pharisees were very concerned! Jesus was claiming alot of "I am" characteristics of God the Father: John 6[48] I am that bread of life. John 8[12] Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have...

KJV- Rev. 4 [8] And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. NWT- Rev. 4 8. As for the four living creatures, each one of them had six...

So then, "before the foundation of the world" , aka " the Creation", the question remains: did 1: God make "a god", or did 2. God bring forth (duplicate) Himself, Who is God, for the purpose of expressing the image of His person through the flesh/veil of Jesus, Hebrews 1[3] Who being the...

When it comes to comprehendinng God's truth, Scripture is not entirely interpreted by our analytical human mind, but also by the Holy Spirit of God who shows us God's thoughts through His words. John 16:13 Isaiah 55:8-9 Merriam Webster Dictionary: Begotten- brought into existence by or as if by...

Angels are "ministering spirits", which were created for the sole purpose of the function they were specifically designed for by God. They only have eternal existence, as long as they don't malfunction. If they malfunction, they are rejected and destined to destruction, WITHOUT FORGIVENESS from...

To be brief, of course Jesus is everything that you are saying. No one can see God the Father! HE is always the Eternal Spirit of who God is. But so that we can know Him, and have a visual identity of the fulness of the Godhead, He brought forth out of himself, the extension of Himself, and...

Thank you for your earnest and thorough research in your recent replies, and to much of what you say I do agree. However, my stand is about the simple understanding, that the created angels of God were not "brought forth" from out of God, as was Jesus. In His situation, He is the ONLY one...

^ Cont'd: In light of your reference of NWT-John 1:1, I am aware that your quote: "and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god...", is extremely opposed to the KJV, saying: "the word was God". These two renditions, are the results of interpretatation from two different Greek Texts. NWT-...

Along the way of your discussion, you forgot that Jesus is God's only begotten Son, as not being created, but rather was "brought forth" (begotten) of/by the Spirit of God, who is and always will be "a spirit". Therefore, Jesus in His preincarnate state, was "a spirit" also, UNTIL He was SENT By...

Jesus said it Himself! John 8[23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. > IOWS, Jesus is NOT OF this creation! John 18[36] Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world [this creation]: if my kingdom were of this world...

Yes, if the term "firstborn" must be applied, then one must comprehend that Jesus' Being is is NOT a creation apart, separate or outside of God the Father, but rather Him being "brought forth- Begotten" out of and FROM the Father Himself. Jesus is the express image and manifestation of God the...

^ Cont'd: According to Ephesians 1:4, we through faith in Him, who are born again of/by His Holy Spirit (John 3:3-8 Luke 11:13 Romans 8:9) are chosen (whosoever will) to be in His kingdom with Him, through the plan of God, that was initiated BEFORE the creation of the world. John 3:16

Jesus, being the Begotten of God the Father, means The Father Himself brought Jesus forth FROM HIMSELF, being that which IS OF His Holy Spirit, and of no other source. Jesus was not created like that of an angel, a spirit which was a creation MADE BY the Spirit of God. Nor was Jesus origin...

So then, if Jesus was, as you quote: "Before Abraham, I have been", HOW was it that He has been, before Abraham came into existence?

KJV- John 8[58] Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Very good point! The KJV speaks of the "flesh" of Christ in the present tense. Though He was born of "flesh and blood", in the likeness of our sinful flesh, and then shed His blood, He Resurrected into NEW Life, which IS now sustained not by blood, but rather by The Spirit of God. By that...