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Not typical, but rather truthful. The pharisees could not discern the Lord's thoughts through His words! You are presenting nothing thats telling me otherwise.

Sorry Scott, you have made no case of proving anything against what I say, because you are presenting nothing that opposes it, except to say that I am in error. Your words against me are meaningless. I am beginning to suspect that you are preaching another gospel. The one that states that Jesus...

Since you are denying the truth of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8 as to become a literal event, upon the Lord's visible and Glorious return, surely you must have in waiting, a proposal for an alternative scenario. So, lets hear it!

It appears that you are dancing and dodging around an invisible pole, that you prefer not to show me. When Jesus is reveald and appears from Heaven, it is apparent that the Beast and the kings and their armies shall SEE Him, because the Beast and the kings and their armies shall wage war...

Why are you attempting to misconstrue my meaning, when I agree with "the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual." Jesus came from Heaven, became mortal flesh and blood, died on the Cross, and Resurrected into His New body of Immortal "flesh and bone". What don't...

Also, so that there will be no misunderstanding, when I used the word "physical", I was meaning He Resurrected into the Immortality of His New physical body.

Because I percieve that you intend to deny and/or scoff at the prophecy of Jesus' sudden and Glorious return, you will never find common ground to reason with me, or any who are like me! Its you who is denying scripture!! "...when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty...

Furthermore, i did not add the word "physical" to the scriptures. I added commentary: "I understand your perspective, being from that of God's point of view, of how there is no sin above another. To THAT I agree, but that is not the perpective that God is speaking from in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3...

BTW, you forgot to answer my question: 2. So, when Thomas was challenged by Jesus to touch His hands and His feet, for the scars made by the nails, and then thrust his hand into His side, that wasn't a witness, that Jesus' Resurrection was indeed physical? Luke 25[39] Behold my hands and my...

You just proved your point that you are a "literist", of which means that you are content to understand the literal words of the Bible, according your fleshly, analytical mind, and not by the Mind of Christ. Isaiah 55:8-9, 1 Corinthians 2:14-16. You should know that Pharisees had such a problem.

^ As for the understanding that people will be "falling away" from faith, prior to His Physical return, that is easily understood in the words of Jesus Himself in Luke 18[8] I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth...

1. Apparently you do not allow for the Holy Spirit's interpretation/meaning of God's word, therefore you can only read the literal words. Isaiah 55:8-9, John 16:13. 2. So, when Thomas was challenged by Jesus to touch His hands and His feet, for the scars made by the nails, and then thrust his...

So then, WHO are the rest of the dead, that LIVED NOT AGAIN, until AFTER the thousand years were finished? I could and would tell you, but I would rather that the Lord instruct (guide) you into ALL of His truth! In regards to "the thousand years", one has to come to terms as to what it is...

^ So yes! Blessed and holy is he, that HATH PART (present tense) in the first resurrection (who is Christ), the second death hath no power...", as shown in 1 John 5:13.

Thanks for your repy "Stumpmaster", I am sure that you and I ARE FAITHFULLY WAITING to be physically and bodily resurrected in the Day of Jesus' sudden appearance from Heaven, in the fulness of his Glory, in Flaming Fire. Having said that, of a surety you do now know, HOW it is and in what...

I understand your perspective, being from that of God's point of view, of how there is no sin above another. To THAT I agree, but that is not the perpective that God is speaking from in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3. He is speaking to the Day of the physical return of Christ from Heaven. However, He...

Whoa! There is a big difference in the situations, in how you are trying to compare the word "fall" here. Adam fell away from innocense and into the knowledge of good and evil. Paul is describing the word "fall", in that there shall be a falling away from faith and into apostasy. Each are two...

^... except we the Lords saints, who are alive, meet the Lord in the air, with the saints who died in faith, He brings with Him, and so shall we ever be with Lord.

I came from that religious mind set. I was born again in 1975, and bought the book "The Late Great Planet Earth". Being a new Christian then, I was "raptured" as they say, right into satan's web of false prophets. But as I became more knowledgable about God's word, and trusting God's Holy...

In THAT moment of in time, in their moment of contemplation, they will decide for either the wealth (worth) of Jesus, or the worth (wealth) of the world! Its the same old story of Esau and Jacob! Esau gave up his "birthright" , for a morsel of food!