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now dave are you saying that JESUS is the Father? for YHWH is the Father, the Great "I AM" is this is what you're saying? yes or no. PICJAG.

now waiting on him, who is the power and wisdom of God. see that tiny word "of" listen, "of" translates the genitive case of nouns, with various shades of meaning. Of these the subjective and objective are mentioned here, which need careful distinction. do you understand what that means? God...

nope, God shared himself in concrete form, "flesh", that he MANIFESTED himself in. that yours and the Pharisees mistake. PICJAG.

Now revelation time, see the scripture "Waiting on him" gave Ephesians 3:9 "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ" by JESUS CHRIST, whi is now concrete, but was "abstract"...

so i can take this as you cannot answer?... :eek: dave, remember no talking scripture. see how "Waiting on him" gave scripture and was refuted , only scripture please. PICJAG

I love this, scripture, John 16:27 "For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God". Just as Eve came out from Adam, they are the same. Bone of my bone flesh of my flesh. Now the Lord Jesus Spirit of my Spirit...... man this is too easy...

ERROR, did you not hear what the LORD said, listen, "I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself". you do know what "alone" and "by myself" means don't you? so that explination want work either. PICJAG

ERROR, Do not your doctrine states, the Father/LORD is not the Son/Lord? They are separate persons. well in John 1:3 the Son/Lord is stated that he made all things. and "he" is a single person desigination. in Isaiah 44:24 it states the Father/the LORD made all things and he said "I" single...

ok dave let us make it clear. is it the Lord or the LORD that made all things?

we'll get to that later post #199 please

not your own interpretation, (see 2 Peter 1:20) but offer scripture to back up what you say? now that fair. #1 on the list, reconcile John 1:3 with Isaiah 44:24. John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made". Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD...

"Diversity" fully shown in the OT that which is to Come in the NT. Scripture, Zechariah 13:7 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little...

Ephesians 3:4 "Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Ephesians 3:5 "Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; Ephesians 3:6 "That the Gentiles should be...

First thanks for the reply, second, with just those "fragments", it put a crimp in your doctrine ............ didn't it..... :cool: but if I'm in ERROR please put what I have said into correct context...... :) PICJAG.

first thanks for the reply, second, when did I say that I was Right? I only corrected, or I exhorted with the scriptures. now, the way it delivered, I'm like my brother Paul, 1 Corinthians 1:21 "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the...

First thanks for the reply. second, this is exactly what I'm talking about. let's used your very own scripture. Exodus 6:3 "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them". so Abraham didn't know god by the...

GINOLJC, to all. First thanks for the reply. second, if so then by scripture disprove what I have posted? you and no other trinity doctrine believer can. on the other hand, I have answered and disproved your scriptures that you say support a trinity by scriptures. clearly showing, and...

first thanks for the reply, second if Jesus was fully man, like you and I, then transfigure youself like Jesus did on the mount of transfiguration, then I'll agree with you. until you can transfigure yourself, then I'm in disagreement with you. ..... well at any time. now, on the resurrection...

first thanks for the reply, second, you said this "We as children of God know who God is and must persevere to teach those who are lost no matter the circumstances for this is well with God. Those who think they know God really don't and only pay lip service to Him". so you know God...

first thanks for the reply, second, if my knowledge means nothing to you then answer just "ONE" of the questions above?. prove me wrong. no need for any Vain Jangling. as the apostle wrote, Ephesians 3:4 "Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)...