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^ IOWS, you shall remain unchosen!

Read John 3:18!! Every person is physically born, being equally "condemned already". No one is predestined to be physically born, as being saved already. . All must heed the "call" to believe in Jesus! If not, then it doesn't matter what you believe about "predestination", for as long as you...

That is no evidence for your view for the false concept of the "predestination of the elect". I can take those same verses and apply it to the concept that every "condemned" person who is "converted" to Christ, and has received the Holy Spirit of God, are those people of whom Jesus shall save...

Jesus died only for the elect?? Please provide that scripture .

. Correct! It is the Holy Spirit that "quickeneth" (makes one alive to God), NOT that they were elected to grace before they were born! . The Holy Spirit convicts one of their sins, and helps them to see their need for Jesus. John 16[7] Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you...

Nope! I was not there, in their putting the salvation plan together for "every man". However, as you say, you were predestined (locked in before birth) to be saved. Were you there to witness your salvation before the world was. Nope! As I, you had no such thing as a preincarnate soul. ...

EB wrote: [Only God was before the world began, and did prepare beforehand His Gift of salvation, knowing full well that Adam and Eve would fail.] AD replied: 1. Yes in the Covenant of redemption the Father gives to the Son a multitude of sinners like myself. 2a. Jesus comes to seek and save...

1. Your perspective is not God's perspective, as to what was predestined. You definitely WERE NOT predestined!! However the Gift of your salvation and mine, by God, was predestined. . Your physical life, and mine, originated by pro-creation through the seed of Adam, who had no eternal life or...

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They are chosen AFTER they answer His call. Many are called, but few chosen! Why then should God call out to the "many", if the "few" were saved already (as you believe) before the foundation of the world. The ONLY status that everyone has for anything "already", is condemnation. That is a...

^ Ooops! Sorry "just by faith". I thought I was replying to " jun2u".

How does one deal with those who REFUSE to examine the many scriptures, that speak contrary to your fabricated doctrine, that you have taken from a few scriptures in isolation.

God's Salvation program incorporates our human will of reasoning with Himself, whereby we can accept His offer of salvation through Jesus, or we can reject it. No one is on auto pilot for being saved or destroyed! . It most definitely is a matter of choice, and the ball is in our court! Heb...

No one is "chosen" until they heed and act in faith on the "call". Many are "called", but do not address that "call", and therefore are not declared as "chosen".

Pure blasphemous foolishness! You neglect to understand the longsuffering love of God! 2 Peter 3[9] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Read those verses again and understand that the work for our redemption was orchestrated FOR US before the foundation of the world. That is what was predestined, and it is for whosoever will. It's all a matter of perspective. If you see yourself as being born as "having an eternal soul", then...

We all are pro-created through the seed of Adam, being equal of mortal life as an animal, of which has no eternal life.

Was Jesus predestined to be "the Lamb of God" before the foundation of the world? Yes! . Were you and I predestined before the foundation of the world? No!

The conclusion is, as I previously said: Ever since Pentecost, there are many who profess to be Christian, but have neglected to receive the Holy Spirit of God. . According to Rom. 8:9, what is the requirement, for our assurance of salvation, that we will not end up as being "none of His"? . Do...