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Once again you should read premillenialists and not the vomit of your teachers about where and what the seeds of premillenialism are. Having gone to a dispensational bible college, having studied under the greats of dispensational theology, having studied so many different views of eschatology...

I could care less what Cerinthius thought of the cross. His heresies are far less than Augustine who is the father of modern allegorical reinterpretation. Teh Catholics perfected it and passed it on to many protestant sects. Well you can lie all you want about the founding of premillenialism...

I would love to see eusebius' evidence to accuse Cerinthius of stirring up Jews in Jerusalem. Especially seeing this is not even recorded in Scripture.

Well there will be eating and drinking and marrying on the millennial kingdom. there are saved survivors when Jesus returns to defeat the antichrist. there will be marriage festivals. but that is only iof you believe the bible as written and not rewritten.

The early8 church believed jesus was the only sacrifice that removed sin. They understood the OT sacrifices covered- not removed sin.

Well hate to tell you this, but read the Scriptures I posted to Spiritual Israelite and find out that the festivals and sacrifices will be restored in the millenial temple! It will not be the OT priesthood. And that summary covers only one tenet of premillenialism- namely that there woud be a...

YOu have rewritten too much of Scripture and moved the order of verses t3o fit an amil reinterpretation of Scripture that I cannot answer it all. About the only thing the Bible and you agree on in all this hodge podge of allegorizing and reinterpreting is that Satan is cast into teh Lake before...

Well as I want Siritual Israelite to answer, I will await their answer. I already know your opinion. Revelation 20:4-6 King James Version 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and...

So you consider Paul a heretic? JOhn a heretic? good to know! You pulled this garbage once before and it flopped. Cerinthius was a gnostic and would reject a physical millenium on earth. You have failed to quote any of their eschatology. Holding heresy in one area does not neccesitate...

If you said earlier, I have forgotten, but I wish to ask an honest question of you (though all I ask are honest). As you take the 1,000 years as symbolic, has it started already? If so when did it do so? It can be approximate, that is fine. Or do you believe it begins in some future time as...

Well we know He is not reigning on earth, for Scripture tell sus He WILL (not might) rule with a rod of iron! Not much rod of iron ruling going on earth now! We know He is not the sovereign of heaven, for then He would be reigning over His father and that is not true. so where is he reigning...

Wrong! Basic understanding of grammar will tell you that. You want to call it discernemnt so you can symbolize passages you fin dinconvenient. why should I accept your symbolisms as literal more than say the JW's and their "discerned interpretations"??

BecaUSE YOUR WORDS IMPLY THAT WE TODAY SOMEHOW HAVE TO HAVE , as believers, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT pAUL WORTE. nO WHAT pAUL WROTE IS CLEAR, PLAIN AND CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY A GRAMMAR SCHOOL KID, WHERRE DISCERNMENT COMES IN IS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE CLEAR WORDSA AND ACCEPT THEM AS TRUTH. nOT AS...

Well you have big issues for there are many contradictions i Scripture between old and new. Yes the 1,000 years of rev. can be figurative. but because it is not grammatically constructed to tell us it is figurative, and because jesus reigns on earth and with all the Scriptures I posted that...

Well you talked about teh worldly and now th saved. If all teh saved have teh Spirit then why do you rant on about "discernment"? I see that as just a ploy to reinterpret th eWord of God to make it say what you want.

I have already clearly told you otherwise. Maybe you symbolized that as well! Most things are very straightforward, if you simply follow th erules you read every other book! YOu read newspapers, books, magazines literally, and use grammar to know when they are using idiomatic things or...

that is what teh JW's and Mormons and Catholics do as well. Why should I trust your symbolic reinterpretation more than theirs?

That is what amil does! takes a passage and symbolizes it. that is why they are amil- they reject a literal 1,000 years and Jesus reigning on earth over a physical kingdom.

photos of high rises on fire - Bing images photos of high rises on fire! Some fully engulfed and burned for near aday or more. what did they all have in common? Not one collapsed or toppled over! Steel and concrete high rises do not topple from fire. Steel cannot melt at teh temps...