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    The Elect

    That all falls under free will the gift God gave us all the angels also have free will it is why Satan could choose to rebell, God created him perfect the full pttern he choose to become Evil God can not create evil Nor does he as the Calvinists say predestine one to evil. That a lie of men...
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    The Elect

    I completly Agree with you on all points
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    Question...

    Gods word has No denomination there are no right religous denominations in Gods eyes only individuals walking in the right path The word of God is equally for all It is man who dived into religions denominations they are by men of men for men God teaches all the same thing.He really could care...
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    Are The elect saved before they believe the gospel ?

    I agree mighty BearThe elect are the overcomers they can not over come until they have heard the Wordthis is where free will comes in ALL ,elect or not have free will to choose and to sin and ask for forgivnesss We see this time and again in the aspostles, Moses, Paul, David they all had free...
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    The Elect

    IT DOSENT I NEVER SAID IT I DONT BELIEVE THAT I NEVER SAID THAT what part of this do you not understand?The Elect are simply the overcomers Jesus Christ's return. That is called the "fullness of time". In the fullness of time all of God's people will be gathered back to Jesus Christ. And we will...
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    Are The elect saved before they believe the gospel ?

    The Elect are simply the overcomers Jesus Christ's return. That is called the "fullness of time". In the fullness of time all of God's people will be gathered back to Jesus Christ. And we will all, both those saints in heaven now, and those who will live to see Jesus Christ's return at the...
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    The Elect

    No I never said that J.M. did I said All have free will some are predestined to do Gods will God says only the Elect are are predestined to bring about his will it has nothing to do with everyone else nor did I ever say anyone was ever judged to hell again that was J.M. whom I totally disagree...
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    The Elect

    (preciousmessage;22869) What did God choose you for according to scripture? ... If you have been acute to my line of reasoning you would have recognized that "all have sinned" and fall short of the glory of God. What I am saying is evident, I believe in the "Good NEWS." That's why I put in...
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    Advice for a new member here. Thank y'all

    God is not angry with you for being put in a bad situation he will forgive you as soon as you ask the worst thing you can do is let the their evil ways continue. Please get some help to get away from these evil people they do not deserve your concern for them. I know its hard but God would not...
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    The Elect

    If you are ever going to understand this Jake stop comparing then with now learn to rightly divide the Word and the time. Jag and I are speaking of. Satan is present in the Garden of Eden, and he played the role of the "serpent", and the "tree of good and evil". This word "serpent" in the Hebrew...
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    The Elect

    (preciousmessage;22854) Are you listed in Adam's genealogy? What were you chosen for? Are you in line with the idea that "some" are chosen for salvation and others are not? I do not understand your reasoning Kriss. Remember Kriss, you are a murderer too. As a matter of fact, you sinned in Adam...
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    Shades of Depression of 1929???

    Here's what's on the Liberty Dollar web site:"Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters: I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville. For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver...
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    The Elect

    You are absoultley right here Jag man to wholly seduce =body mind and spirit
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    The Elect

    Cain wasnt choosen for anything he was the first murder Do you see Cain listed in Adam's geneology??Whether you belive Cain was the Son of Satan or was fully adopted by him the facts are the kennites are descentants of Cain
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    Why is US media so scared of Ron Paul???

    We can not defeat it unfortunatly it is prophecy all we can do is try to make as many aware as possiable that this is how Antichrist will come to rule through the NWO at the 6th trump So wait until the 7th trump when the true Christ will come
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    Question for those who have just said NO to Church:

    Protestant churches are just as mislead and full of mens lies as Catholic churches goldyeven though it started in Rome your church is not the only guilty one here. I know it seems sometimes we pick on Catholics but Protestants are no better in alot of their practices thats why God has no...
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    Free will vs Predestination

    You guys seem to be getting way off track Predestination vs Free willof course anyone thay doubts God dosent use time has never looked at numbers study but the thread is predestination vs freewill. And it is not true that we are all predestined only the Elect those that are choosen are...
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    Free will vs Predestination

    (savedbygrace57;22771) This earth was created to be a forum for the outworking of Gods eternal purpose in christ..eph 38Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 9And to make all men see...
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    1000 Years

    (Daquine;22828) Well, my view on the chain idea, is that how would you chain a spiritual being? By using a spiritual chain. An angel will come down and chain the beast for 1000 years. If the chain came from Heaven itself, it would chain him.And I'd like to think it would be a literal 1000...
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    The Elect

    Its exactly what the Hebrew word means the Bible was not written in English we have to look at meaning of the original wordsHebrew #8423 - 8423 Tuwbal Qayin too-bal' kah'-yin apparently from 2986 (Compare 2981) and 7014; offspring of Cain; Tubal-Kajin, an antidiluvian patriarch:--Tubal-cain.