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This is ancient text that we're talking about here. From almost 2,000 years ago. Why are you trying to think of it the way we think of modern armies? It's referring to multiple military camps or groups surrounding Jerusalem and that's exactly what happened around 70 AD.

I completely disagree. By doing that, you end up labeling some people as preterists who are not preterists and futurists who are not futurists. To label me as a preterist would be like labeling someone who believes that Jesus fulfilled prophecies about His first coming a preterist. It's...

Do you think it is just a coincidence that earthly Jerusalem was surrounded by Roman armies just before 70 AD and then was destroyed and made desolate with "great distress in the land and wrath upon this people" occurring with many people being killed by the sword with the rest being taken...

Who in this thread is saying that? Jerusalem still has no temple and is still being trampled by Gentiles to this day. You are a full preterist, right?

Using scripture to interpret scripture, why wouldn't you think that Jesus was talking about returning after the tribulation of the times of the Gentiles? Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will...

So, seeing Jesus explicitly saying that the temple buildings standing at that time would be destroyed and then answering a question about the timing of that is a case of reading things into the Bible? You can't be serious. You are the one reading things INTO the Bible by trying to spiritualize a...

Then you are a DUCK as well since you also believe some Bible prophecy has been fulfilled. QUACK QUACK!

Why are you changing the text of Hebrews 11:13 to try to make it as if it doesn't say that all of those of faith previously mentioned, which included Enoch, all died? Do you think it's acceptable to twist God's word like that? It's not.

What's absurd is your lack of communication skills. What is the point of talking about the order in which the text is written, as if there's anyone who can't see that? What matters is the chronological order of the events written about in the book. So, that's what I'm talking about since that is...

I think he believes in 3 future resurrections. One at the supposed pre-trib rapture, one when Jesus returns and one 1,000+ years later. Is there another one he believes in besides those? Edit: I see that the resurrection of the two witnesses is his fourth future resurrection. That's 3 too many...

WPM and I are not preterists, so you are wasting your time with this nonsense. We are fully aware and do not deny the spiritual kingdom of God/Christ that was ushered in at Christ's first coming. Your attempt to lump us in with preterists instead of addressing what we actually believe is ridiculous.

Matthew 24:19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! This shows your utter LACK of spiritual discernment. This is not saying woe to children here, this is saying woe to women who are pregnant and woe to women who are nursing babies. But, you're...

You are diverting attention away from the fact that you have no explanation for what Jesus was talking about when saying that those in Judea would need to flee to the mountains and why it would be particularly difficult for nursing mothers and pregnant women and why He said to pray that their...

Or should we say spiritual obtuseness.

What in the world are you talking about here? You don't even understand what you're arguing against. That passage is not talking about the disciples of Christ not knowing the time of their visitation and no one is saying that. Jesus warned believers in Judea to flee to the mountains once they...

None of those passages mention a spiritual Judea! Stop twisting scripture to make it fit your doctrine! You have no shame! LOL. That wouldn't have helped anyone to avoid being destroyed in the city of Jerusalem in 70 AD. LOL again! If it was talking about God's kingdom, it would have said to...

Translation: You are not able to address what I said.

What is giving you the impression that he believes anyone will be changed to put on bodily immortality before the last trumpet sounds? I already told you that he believes the rapture occurs at the last trumpet and that he believes 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 happens at the same time as 1...

If you stop reading things into what I'm saying then maybe we'd be on the same page more often. So what? You do that, too. Whatever. We all have a framework for how we understand scripture as a whole. There's nothing wrong with that. We should have a framework that we use to help prevent...

You are the one who makes us laugh with your nonsense. There is no spiritual Judea. You are making that up. Never is Judea ever referenced in a spiritual sense anywhere in scripture.