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    Others are sinners but Christians not ?

    Let's look at greed - Luke 3:14....and be content with your wages. Who here tries to improve their bank balance ? Who here eats more than they need to ? Who here has tech that they want rather than need ? So far 3 out 3. Guess, what ? Like me, you are a sinner. Like 'others' you are a sinner
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    Switzerland wants to cap population at 10 million

    Your point :- """ It boils down to greed, wanting more and more""" My response :- and who of us on this forum is not greedy in some way ?
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Do you believe there will be Eph 4:30(sealed believers) in the 2 Thess 2:3 period ?
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    I don't identify as a "Christian"

    Because you are not a Christian You will go to the Great White Throne Judgement if you die refusing to accept only the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Pray for yourself Doc Gal 3:- 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? You are claiming that a Eph 4:30 sealed unto redemption believer by...
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Your false teachings are destroyed by Paul, yes goodbye
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Stop teaching that a Eph 4:30 SEALED UNTO REDEMPTION believer can become UNsealed ( lose the HS) by their actions since nowhere is that taught by Paul. . Paul teaches how to be saved/sealed/justified which is by faith and NOT actions. 'Actions' are subject to rewards/loss at the JSOC yet...
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    You want to use "delivered unto satan" to equate becoming UNsaved, Unsealed ? Let's see:- 1 Cor 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    and what does Paul teach are the action requirements to be saved/sealed/justified ? So either Paul is contradicting himself or YOU ARE CONFUSED Titus 3: 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of...
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Is Samuel & Psalms AFTER Eph 4:30 ? I'll rephrase to avoid confusion List the verses FROM PAUL after Eph 4:30 that teach a 'believer' had the HS taken away from them by their 'actions' "believer"- someone who trusts only the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for forgiveness of their sins
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    What PAULINE verses AFTER Eph 4:30 shows that the HS departed a believer ? "believer" - some one who trusts only the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of their sins
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Neither does the word BIBLE or TRINITY UNsealed - have the HS taken from them What verses did I quote that teach a Eph 4:30 SEALED UNTO REDEMPTION believer can become "UNsealed"" by their 'actions' ?
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    "falling away" By ACTIONS or no longer trusting the death/burial/resurrection of Christ ? If no longer TRUSTING the DBR that again confirms that ongoing faith/belief/trust is THE requirement to be Eph 4:30 sealed unto redemption If "falling away" by ACTIONS yet still trusts the DBR, then where...
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    I don't identify as a "Christian"

    Yet you are not a Christian. You do not trust only the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Hey Doc, your post does not show who you were responding to. OT has incidences where the HS was removed/taken from believers due to their 'actions' ... As of Eph 4:30 SEALED UNTO REDEMPTION, I find no instances of a believer becoming UNsealed. Is there any that you can list ?
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    The Coherent Causality Argument

    Rather than rely on the Bible some people turn to fools for guidance :-
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    I don't identify as a "Christian"

    A Christian today is some who :- Places their faith/trust/belief in only the death/burial/resurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of their sins so that they can enter Heaven. You apparently do not so therefore rightfully "don't identify as a Christian"
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    If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

    Col 1:22-23 Since belief is THE requirement to be Eph 1:13, 4:30 SEALED then I too believe that belief must be ongoing I don't see it but some claim that 2 Tim 2:13 "cannot deny himself" teaches otherwise .. ACTIONS though are not a condition to be Eph 1:13, 4:30 SEALED & is confirmed by the :-...
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    Paul's Gospel

    Acts 2:38 is before Paul Yes, Paul did initially water baptize a few yet later no longer did If water baptize is a justification requirement today then why :- 1 Cor 1 :17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: And why does Paul not list it as a condition of the Gospel that...
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    Christ has already returned ?

    OSAS :- Since belief is the condition to be Eph 1:13, 4:30 SEALED then I believe belief must be ongoing. Since ACTIONS are not the condition then please list the verses where Paul teaches a Eph 1:13, 4:30 SEALED UNTO REDEMPTION believer can become UNsealed