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  1. stevesonthebay

    Embracing Doctrinal Diversity - Unity in diversity

    I guess it depends on what doctrine it is. There are core doctines that can never be changed. The disagreement and division over doctrine can range for core or fringe disagreements. But its not so much the specific doctrinal disagreements. But the idea that there can be disagreements on core...
  2. stevesonthebay

    Embracing Doctrinal Diversity - Unity in diversity

    Heres the problem I see with doctrinal diversity. It comes from the same idea as cultural and religious diversity. Therefore its not just allowing contradictory doctrines withon the same religion. It also has to allow religious and cultural diversity. It comes from the same egalitarian...
  3. stevesonthebay

    Islamic call to prayer wakes up entire neighborhoods in NYC

    The unreal idea of multiculturalism. That conflicting beliefs can be rightfully practiced to their full extent together in the one culture. Inevitably they will clash and conflict. But this is the new world order that has been pushed for decades now. We were told constantly that the west needs...
  4. stevesonthebay

    Near death experience (NDE) and spiritual dreams and visions.

    You do realise Ai is using info such as research on the subject. Its not some intelligent machine making stuff up. Well not completely. I agree you never just take Ai alone. But you look at the top results its using. Which are usually scientific or research type articles that have good...
  5. stevesonthebay

    Near death experience (NDE) and spiritual dreams and visions.

    Ai summary An out of body experience (OBE) is a phenomenon where a person’s center of consciousness temporarily feels as if it is located outside their physical body, often allowing them to view themselves and their surroundings from an elevated or distant perspective. Affecting 10% to 20% of...
  6. stevesonthebay

    my parents say we learn from punishment, i am being punished and i HATE it, my parents say we became a better person after punishment, do i deserve it

    I hear your frustration. Homework is hard or was a hassel fullstop for me. I hated doing it. I wanted to be out and about. I was in jail and there was literally only 4 walls to stare at. Actually from memory there was an occassional magazine or book around. I was not a good reader. But I would...
  7. stevesonthebay

    Music thread

    The Tedeschi Trucks Band. I followed Derek Trucks for years. He is the nephew of Butch Trucks drummer for the Allman brothers. Who I also like for the guitar work and blues roots music.
  8. stevesonthebay

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Yeah thats the scary part. The spiritual aspect can easily be mistaken. It already exists is a realm that is hard to qualify as real or make believe or deonic and psychologically damaging. So unless this is qualified then it is something not to dabble in.
  9. stevesonthebay

    Near death experience (NDE) and spiritual dreams and visions.

    Yes its a interesting phenomena. I believe this can happen. The spirit of a person can disembody and be experienced by another. Instantly teleported to that place because there is no time and space. In other words the spiritual aspect is real and its not constrained to the body.
  10. stevesonthebay

    Near death experience (NDE) and spiritual dreams and visions.

    I would have thought it was the opposite. That if the brain is a reciever or transmitter. Then like a radio box if its damaged the signal may be distorted or weaker. If completely detroyed then lost. Despite the radio signals still being a reality out in the universe. Similar to consciousness...
  11. stevesonthebay

    Near death experience (NDE) and spiritual dreams and visions.

    What about out of body experiences (OBE) without the person dying. I am not sure they actually go to heaven or hell. Often they experience their own bodies below them or seeing relatives. Seeing a bright light but never going in. Or they may have a life reflection or visit a loved one in real...
  12. stevesonthebay

    Near death experience (NDE) and spiritual dreams and visions.

    I am wondering where the visions from NDE come from. These are different to dreams and visions in the usual sense. Where dreams are not actually like everyday life. But more dreamlike. The person later knows that they had a dream or vision in their mind. Whereas NDE is often described as like...
  13. stevesonthebay

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    I relate to the psychological aspect and how there is a deeper spiritual basis for psychological disorders. In some ways mental illness is a possession of the person. A fixated mind state like a defense or attack depending on the situation. But I think the person knows what is happening. They...
  14. stevesonthebay

    Will God punish idolaters?

    This is an interesting question for modern times. We have many examples of nations or tribes or peoples who defied God and decended into the worshop if false gods and idols and how God punished them. Such as S & G and the Egyptians pre Exodus and the 10 plagues. We have examples of Isreal...
  15. stevesonthebay

    Few are saved.

    Yeah I guess. But if they are really still and quiet and look at the billions of stars in the night sky. Then its hard to to know God. So long as they are very, very, very quiet lol. When those decieving voices come just tell them to be quiet for a moment or two. You will know God I guarentee...
  16. stevesonthebay

    my parents say we learn from punishment, i am being punished and i HATE it, my parents say we became a better person after punishment, do i deserve it

    In some ways thats true. When you experience something uncomfortable due to actions it makes you want to avoid it. Its really the fundemental principle of law and order in society. We know that people will even have their complete freedom taken away if they commit crime. But that should only be...
  17. stevesonthebay

    UFOs , Aliens and the end times

    Its a facinating issue. I am not sure what is really going on with all these recent sightings. It seems unreal that we live in an age where the government is finally admitting something is going on that they cannot explain. Its even stranger that as they do we begin to see all these strange...
  18. stevesonthebay

    my parents say we learn from punishment, i am being punished and i HATE it, my parents say we became a better person after punishment, do i deserve it

    They say the best way to learn is to realise the harm done to others. This use to be a form of punishment in courts. The perpetrator would do some community work. Sometimes that would make the person do work related to the crime or to get a victim statement to help the person understand the...
  19. stevesonthebay

    Win Souls, Not Arguments!

    I think this is the key. After many debates over the years you can never convince any through evidence or logic and reasoning. Salvation is something personal, a relational experience and not scientific fact. But there is a realness with experiences. This is how the ancients passed on knowledge...
  20. stevesonthebay

    Few are saved.

    And I think the present time is a perfect condition with postmodernist relative thinking that Christ truth can be subverted in a sea of rationalisations, critical theories, woke morals, narratives and fake news. Never has there been a time like this where a lie can be made a truth and a truth...