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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    How can any future physical temple be the temple of God when the temple of God is always one that God ordains and that He dwells in?
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    You don't think that Revelation 10:5-7 mentions a trumpet? Is refers to the seventh trumpet. Please try to read what people are saying more carefully.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    It's not complicated at all. The person who created this thread is making it very complicated for no good reason. And you also make it more complicated than it is.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    No one has said that He did. So, why did you feel the need to say that? Exactly. No one has said otherwise. The way He left was visibly and physically. He will not return literally on a white horse. But, even if He did, that would not contradict what is written in Acts 1:11. If He returned on...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    He is not denying that the time period that you refer to as "the day of the Lord" has not yet come. Do you understand that? He is like me in that he does not call that time period "the day of the Lord" like you do, but rather he, like me, calls it "the last days". He sees the day of the Lord as...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I agree completely. And, this is why the foundation of our doctrine should not be on those difficult to discern Old Testament prophecies that are not written in a clear, straightforward manner. Yet, those prophecies are the primary foundation of Premil doctrine. Amil doctrine, in contrast, is...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Are you saying that you don't believe there's any prophecy in the Old Testament that is unfulfilled? Note that I'm asking for clarification because of what you said here and not trying to make a statement about what you believe.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Can you tell me how you interpret the following passages... 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Would you agree that Satan is a spirit being? If so, do you think he is always possessing someone at all times? You have claimed that spirits can't exist outside of a physical host. What physical host was Satan possessing when he was tempting Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights?
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    He's not understanding the implications of his claims. He is making a blanket statement that spirits can only exist within physical hosts. He posted scripture showing that angels are ministering spirits. So, the implication of his claim that spirits can only exist withing physical hosts would...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Do you not believe that angels are spirits? The Bible teaches that. Hebrews 1:14 calls them "ministering spirits". They clearly operate outside of physical hosts. So, why can't demons also do that?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    So, why can't you see that @TribulationSigns disagrees with you about this? He does not see Satan, demons/devils, and angels as being actual spirit beings who are separate beings from human beings. He has made that very clear. You say that they work through human hosts, but don't try to say that...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    How about you clarify what your beliefs actually are instead of saying some things that make it seem like you believe one thing and other things that make it seem like you believe something else? Can you just clarify what you believe for everyone for the sake of helping us to not misrepresent...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Ridiculous! Daniel 9:24 is all about Jesus and what He has already done! It is fulfilled! It's not just talking about reconciliation for an elect remnant of Jews for a certain time period. His sacrifice long ago was "once for all", meaning once for all time (Hebrews 10:10). Hebrews 2:17...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    See, you're not clear about what he was saying, either, yet he got upset with me just because I misunderstood what he said. He definitely has trouble with communicating clearly, but I guess that's somehow everyone else's fault.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    I agree with this reasoning. I believe there is a definite direct relation between 2 Thessalonians 2:8 and Revelation 19:11-21 and they are clearly the same event, which is the future second coming of Christ.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    What are you intending to say here exactly? Be more specific if you want people to understand what you're saying. I have no idea of what your point is here.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Now, here's something we can agree on. His logic, which is typical of pre-trib logic, is ridiculous and this was a good way to illustrate that.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    If I misunderstood you, it wasn't on purpose. So, if anyone is guilty here, it's you for being unclear. And whether I misrepresented you or not doesn't change the fact that you often misrepresent the views of others. I'm not saying you do it on purpose, but you do. That's what you need to do...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    You can't seriously be comparing your work schedule to a biblical prophecy? Please get serious. A set amount of time was determined for the 70 week prophecy to be fulfilled, but people like you try to add thousands of years of time to the determined time period as an attempt to get around the...