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  1. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    The same as it is for ALL Christianity: The atoning Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Now – if you don’t mind – I’d like to get back on topic . . .
  2. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    No so fast . . . Paul is referring to the Mosaic Law, which includes the dietary and ritual laws. Those are no longer binding because they were fulfilled by Christ (Col. 2:16-17). Remember what Jesus said in Matt 22: Matt. 22:37-39 Jesus replied: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart...
  3. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    The Catholic Church teaches that we are saved by grace – NOT by works. The Catholic Church sees Jesus as not only a Savior to be believed in – but also a Lawgiver to be obeyed. Any ambiguous language from Trent was clarified in the Joint Declaration of Faith between Lutherans and Catholics...
  4. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    First of all – that’s NOT completely true. It’s faith and Baptism. So, BOTH the Church (Cat. 1987) and the Book (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38) say this. Secondly - what is “Faith”? Is it simply believing – or does it include surrender and obedience? Can you be saved by simply believing? The Bible...
  5. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Soooo, is it that you can’t answer my questions. Were they too confusing? Ill list them again. Stopp running and answer the questions: - How did all of the Christians for the first 300 years of the Church learn about Christ? - Did they ALL have copies of the Bible? - How about ALL of the...
  6. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You dodged my questions because you CAN’T answer them. They’re historically and logically factual – and that makes YOUR position illogical and untenable. Answer the questions . . . I don’t make ANY excuses. I read the Bible and recommend that for everyone. The danger of YOUR...
  7. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Complete dodge . . . How 'bout answering some of the questions I asked? Does it make you uncomfortable to defend your position?
  8. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I couldn't agree more. This is a basic belief of Christianity. This statement is based on ignorance . . . How did all of the Christians for the first 300 years of the Church learn about Christ? Did they ALL have copies of the Bible? How about ALL of the Christians who died before John wrote...
  9. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    I sure did. All it did was dredge up the nonsensical arguments YOU’VE made over the years. Or have you forgotten that YOU and I have had this same debate for several years now?
  10. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    And then, YOU brought up the Sabbath – NOT me . . .
  11. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    FIRST of all – Jesus did guarantee that nobody would be snatched out of His hand. Those who voluntarily leave Him aren’t being “plucked out.” The crowd that walked away and returned to their former way of life in John 6:66 wee such people. Secondly, Christ’s Church didn’t become apostate and...
  12. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    WRONG. I don’t “change” my position. I’m against OSAS for everybody because it is unbiblical - and was never taught for the first 1500 years of Christianity. His/her diatribe was the usual SDA twisting Scripture and hodge podge of out-of-context quotes.
  13. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    NOWHERE in Scripture is there a “Sinner’s Prayer”. Yet, I hear from Protestants that one needs to recite this to be saved. As for confession and penance – Jesus gave His Apostles the power to forgive or retain sins in His name (John 20:21-23). Paul speaks of this “ministry of reconciliation”...
  14. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    Ummm, I’m NOT the one who brought up this topic. It was your fellow SDA member, @Brakelite because it’s HIS favorite topic. However, after having condemned this topic for this thread – you went off on your own diatribe. Frankly, I'm NOT interested in debating this again. I’ve heard every...
  15. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    I absolutely do. Man friends and half of my 12 siblings are Protestant. I live on he West coast.
  16. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    A Actually, it's hilarious because it's not true . . .
  17. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    And yet, you can't point to a SINGLE Lie I've told on this entire forum in ALL the years I've been here. Not ONE . . .
  18. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    You mean general Christian rituals like Communion? Baptism? Weekly Communal worship? Weddings? Funerals? Or Protestant rituals like Infant Dedications, Altar Calls, Worship Services, Foot Washings, etc?
  19. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    You don't "love" Catholics. you hate them. Onlya perspon who is filled with hate vomits out the kinds of LIES that you do. For example - above, you clam that we "worship" angels and saints. This is an abominable lie. If you were ignorant of Catholic teaching, I would be able to excuse it...
  20. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    There's NO room for that kind of filth. Disagreement is ONE thing - profanity is another . . .