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  1. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Question: Did you not say in your post that the DotL "had already come"???
  2. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Here is Post #162 again Point out what part of this post goes against the Bible You'll be here = God promised and HE always keeps His Word And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will...
  3. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Good Morning There are actually TWO Restrainers that pertain to Daniel, Matt ch24 , 2 Thessalonians and the "man of sin" #1 is the Holy Spirit who oversees the world = Genesis chapter 1 and more #2 is Michael, the Watcher of Israel = Michael is the Arch Angel that replaced Lucifer/Satan after...
  4. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You left out truth = "as if" "as if the day had already come"
  5. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The Restrainer is and always has been the Holy Spirit
  6. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yep, and some are BIGGER then others!!! Thank you for the 'LOL' of the day. SHALOM
  7. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Always keep this in your heart & mind = God's word is a Children's Book = written for His Children Notice how chapter 1 lays the foundation of Deliverance from His Wrath 1 Thess 1:10 - to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to...
  8. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Thank You Joe for the open and honest confession of faith in CHRIST as well as our weaknesses. i can attest to similar in my own life and the daily need of the Holy Spirit, Grace and His Mercy that i may have love for others
  9. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    #1 - The DotL is not the Great Tribulation - it is the Day of the Wrath of the LAMB and of God #2 - Amos 5:18 is addressed to those Jews who thought they are righteous before God and that the Judgment that is Coming is only upon their enemies. #3 - These same Jews are alive today as they fully...
  10. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I heard a pastor on the radio say these words: "Pre-trib rapture will prevent us from taking the MoB for if we are still here then it is not the MoB and therefore it is safe to take it."
  11. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You'll be here = God promised and HE always keeps His Word And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and...
  12. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You are here now and you and all 'pre-fibbers' will remain on the earth until: a.) you die and your spirit rises back to God who gave it b.) the LORD Jesus Christ 2nd Coming = BUT you still must WAIT until the Resurrection is complete But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning...
  13. David in NJ

    What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

    Acts is the transition period from the OT to the NT which brought in the Gentiles to be One with the Jews who came to MESSIAH Even the apostles had to convene to discuss the OT prophecies as it applied to the NT in Christ. The KEY was/is their submission to Christ, Prayer and the Baptism of the...
  14. David in NJ

    What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

    My Sister in Christ - Thank You KEEP in your heart & mind that the HOLY SPIRIT is the AUTHOR of the Scriptures = 2 Peter 2:16-21 Moses, prophets, apostles, James = these are the men whom the AUTHOR "moved/inspired" to write what they wrote. They did not fully understand the DEPTH of their...
  15. David in NJ

    What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

    I had to remove my 'love' to this post because i read it wrong. I thought you said: "I wonder if the lost tribes of Israel that are scattered throughout the world ARE BELIEVERS" In fact, ALL Blood washed saints become part of the Twelve Tribes of CHRIST, for CHRIST is the Israel of God =...
  16. David in NJ

    What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

    AWESOME and i AGREE IMPORTANT: In Revelation, it is only the Mark of the Beast that we are WARNED not to partake in, along with idols. There is no commandment given by the LORD or the Apostles against gathering on Sunday SAME as = There is no commandment given by the LORD or the Apostles that...
  17. David in NJ

    What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

    In fact, Christ commanded us that we must keep the 4th commandment. HE said it in His Gospel = Loud and Clear for those who desire to hear His words. However, HE did not Say it the way your religion desires. IMPORTANT: saturday was not replaced with sunday
  18. David in NJ

    What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

    @shepherdsword included on this question Angelina, you keep mentioning "how does this apply to Gentile believers" as if there is a separate set of commandments for the Jews in Christ that does not apply to the Gentiles in Christ. Is this taught in the Gospel and/or by the Apostles? If you...
  19. David in NJ

    What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

    Good Morning, 100% AGREE Where was the first prophecy. and or the Beginning prophecy, that the Savior would Come thru the Jewish people? Clue: It was way before Daniel Also, please take note of Acts 13:44 Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the...