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First let's get this straight. YOU called ME dishonest. Did you read the OP? Do you understand what this thread is about? All my posts to you and you to me were a waste of time. I'm not here to waste my time but to have thoughful and serious dialogue. I explained to you why the designation...

Isn't Arius the person who taught Arianism?? I do believe so. He taught that Jesus is a man.

Yeah. We're here to win arguments. §What a GREAT REASON to be here!!!!

I'm a VERY dishonest person Armour. You should keep VERY FAR away from me.

Not Arius,,,for sure.

I didn't catch all you said Lambano. In a hurry...must leave soon. I do agree with you that the trinity had to be refined and explained and that there were different opinons as to HOW. My point in posting the ECFs was that they all considered Jesus to be GOD... then how we want to parse that...

Armour When you're a little bit more intelligent I MIGHT have a convrsation with you. Right now...it's impossible and I don't have a lot of time. The WORD TRINITY IN THE BIBLE is a preetty lame statement. That's all I'll say. Learn some history.

I REALLY have noting further to say to you. I'm not here for YOU SAID I SAID. or to be called a liar.

I have nothing futher to say to you.

I agree that Jesus was not fully understood. But, as you said, it was worked out and it explains this man Jesus very well.

By who Trevor? By YOU? So? YOU don't make the rules for the Christian religion/faith.

Armour, I said no such thing. Please go back and reread what I said. I bellieve the bible YOU are reading is in English. Do you understand English? Do you accept what the NT is teaching you? Well Armour.... it's like this. YOU are not supposed to have your own beliefs. It says CHRISTIAN...

3 of 3 @JustMe Tertullian (AD 150-225) was an early Christian apologist. He said, Hippolytus of Rome (AD 170-235) was a third-century theologian. He was a disciple of Irenaeus, who was a disciple of Polycarp, who was a disciple of John. He writes,

@JustMe 2 of 2 Melito of Sardis (died c. AD 180) was the bishop of the church in Sardis. Irenaeus of Lyons (AD 130-202) was bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul, which is now Lyons, France. Irenaeus was born in Smyrna in Asia Minor, where he studied under bishop Polycarp, who in turn had been a...

LOL @Justified states that we should believe what the bible says.... and YOUR reply is that it's a rediculous statement? And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is why Christianity, as a religion, is in deep trouble. You see JustdMe....YOU don't get to decide what scripture teaches. Those who heard...

Trevor, I've been saying this from the start: You HATE the CC. This is what I have to say to you: WHY do you use a book that a church that you HATE compiled? I mean, really,,,,I WOULD NOT use such a book. If a corrupted church publishes a book... why would anyone want to read it? Seems that...

No. I'm not fitting anything into MY theology. Are you like the armoured guy? I don't have MY theology. I didn't invent the christian religion. It was here before I was born. it's been here for two millinia. What I post on these threads is what the church has taught from the beginning. I...

Thanks Justified. Sometimes I just can't.

LOL You're funny. So you think that I think that what I think is what everyone should think? Is that what you think? Yeah. Not going to be able to give you a serious answer. Mull over my reply and see what you think you could come up with.

ONLY BEGOTTEN in theology means UNIQUE. It does not mean that God had only one baby. God the Son was NEVER created. He always existed. You don't really have to understand this... but you do have to accept it. Or, you shouldn't call yourself a Christian.