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I was reading this today: Act 1:6 When they (the disciples) therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put...

Why do you avoid the truth? Because you have no answer for it. Pretrib is dead! You have no defence for it.

Do you have corroboration for that? No! That is because you are making it up to fit what you have been taught. That is why you avoid post after post. You have no rebuttal to the facts. Who is "the first that should rise" in Acts 26:23? Who is "the firstborn from the dead" in Colossians 1:18...

It is a group of group of spiritual dead people who have been spiritually resurrected in Christ, and through Christ, and by Christ, for His glory. This is written throughout the New Testament. It is not hard to grasp.

Really? Do you believe in corroboration?

You do not get it do you? He did not conquer the grave. He did not overcome death. Jesus did. He was the first. You are always trying to diminish the first resurrection of Christ.

You are fighting with Scripture again. The Bible makes it clear that Christ is "the first resurrection" (Acts 26:23 and Revelation 20:6), "the firstborn from the dead" (Colossians 1:18), "the firstfruits of them that slept" (1 Corinthians 15:20), "first begotten of the dead" (Revelation 1:5).

It already happened bro. Do you deny that Christ's resurrection is the first?

And what is your point?

No. Mat 8:22 "let the dead (the spiritually dead) bury their dead (the naturally dead)."

The first resurrection is Jesus. Check the Bible. It is through that we have our part in Christ and overcome the second death.

End-times or the last days run between the 1st and 2nd Advents. The end or the "last day" is "the end."

Thank you for answering these. You are spot on. The reason TS and rwb avoid them is because it exposes their heresy.

Yes. The Messiah is the overwhelming focus. The reference Agreed! He is in control of everything. But He uses earthly vessels. This is not a hill worth dying on. I overwhelmingly agree with you on this subject. I know where you are coming from.

You did not answer his question

It doesn't say the Messiah will be on the earth until the consummation. It simply says that as a result of the cutting off of the Messiah by Israel their temple would be destroyed. It would be destroyed until the consummation (the end). Why are you going to Daniel 7? It is talking about the...

He is not the same, in my opinion! There is two princes - one the Messiah, and the other Titus. From my studies, and I have read a lot on this, my position would be the traditional Protestant view over the years.

I think the people of the prince was Titus army.

I agree with everything else you hold on this. Just not this.

How can Satan send anything to anyone when you do not attribute personality to him? He is abstract evil in your opinion. Are Christians possessed by angels? Are all the wicked demon possessed? Are evil angels - real spiritual entities distinct to man, is it evil or