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Yes, I think "Free Grace" I'm referring to is a much more novel movement.

Not sure, since the same passage says if we deny Him He will deny us--"before the Father." No, I am not sure if there is a difference between us abiding in Him and Him abiding in us--that would not make sense to me--but I don't understand these things perfectly, and there's a verse where He...

Jesus says He abides in the Father, and the Father in Him, and that, because of this fact, to see Jesus is to see the Father, and that, in connection with this, Jesus speaks and acts only as the Father commands--this makes sense that to see Jesus is to see the Father, because Jesus only speaks...

It can't be a coincidence, though, that it was only when I believed the right thing, that He granted me to rejoice in His Presence, right?

It's not that I've changed my mind about "Faith Alone", but I've experienced God's Presence when I've considered that I'm already in right standing by faith alone, because of God's mercy, and I believe that apart from Him I can do nothing, but, with Him, things are so different, but I fluctuate...

Trusting Christ fulfills the New Covenant "requirement", "the Law of Faith", so that you are "justified" by the "righteousness" of having fulfilled that requirement (ie, "faith is counted as righteousness"). Jesus says, "For the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved me and have...

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No, no answer has been given to the answer already furnished to your "answer"--ie, 1 John 5 says "the eternal life is in His Son", and this shows that the branch that does not abide in Him will not have the life that is only "in His Son". We differ. I'm finding it difficult to believe that...

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Many things could be said--like how a dead branch never issues from a tree, but only a living branch, and, later, it may stop receiving the substance that is only found in the tree, so it may be removed--but it is important to recognize, here, that the warning to "abide", taught by Jesus in Jn...

Yeah, He also says branches that don't abide get cut off, so I was having difficulty. Yeah, and 1 Jn 5 says "this [eternal] life is in His Son", and, if you take into consideration that abiding in Him (where the life is) isn't automatic, nor assumed (otherwise, John wouldn't have commanded...

If only that verse was there, I might agree, but He also says some branches don't abide, so they're.cut off and are thrown in the fire, so I was having difficulty.

Anyway, I don't want to get off topic. If you want to discuss OSAS / NOSAS, please join another thread--maybe one of mine.

I believe all those verses, and do not come to your conclusions lol Thanks anyway!

Nope, Ezekiel 18:24 says God can forget righteousness, so, faith being counted as righteousness, and their having believed having been forgotten, it becomes the case that they never believed. God blots out sins, forgetting it, but He also blots out righteousness, forgetting it. Branches are...

I can't accept that : 1. John warns the "little children" "remain in Him", warning them with the same warning of the branches that get cut off if they don't (Jn 15 ; 1 Jn 2:28). 2. Your "take" makes the idea of being blotted out of the Book of Life meaningless. Also, many other passages, which I...

Of course : my purpose in discussing, sometimes, is to check my blind spots. I subject my views to scrutiny to help improve. That said, I started out by saying I did not know how to reconcile the two, so I was looking for help / opinions. No, your desire is not to help me but to help yourself.

Your "purpose" is to make yourself the center of the thread--that's not happening.

The reply addressed user @bdavidc, so idk why you would make yourself the center of the matter. Empty allegations. You're still trying to take control of the thread / change the topic--and I'm still not going to let that happen. You're off topic.

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