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Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. Let's see if we agree on these basics :- I assume we both agree that "them" includes you & 1 and is...

Ah, the pre, post, mid, pre-wrath debate. Here is question/claim that those who reject pre have trouble answering. 'Today' we are SEALED with the HS Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30, Gal 3:2 once we believe, trust the 1 Cor 15:1-4 Gospel taught to Paul by Christ Gal 1:11-12. Once SEALED where does Paul teach...

If you ask me for verses and I ramble on with opinions, am I being polite & respectful to your request or something else ?

"""""And yes, I am someone who believes Jesus already returned, Then they stoned Stephen resulting in Prophecy ON HOLD, enter Paul - the MYSTERY This article should be of benefit to you. https://doctrine.org/pauls-mystery

I'm repeating what Scripture teaches, if you believe otherwise then list the verses and let Scripture do the arguing for you

Great, then Paul is your Apostle and not the 12. And since Paul was the FIRST and you are the NEXT then you are saved by the teachings of Christ through Paul :) .. Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ? Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a...

Do you consider yourself to be one of "" them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting."" 1 Tim 1:!6 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life...

"""I mean the dev isn’t really a being as it is as a personification and Israel was deceiving people left and right - Please list the verses that teach that. - "Jesus returned ""- are you referring to 1 Thess 4:16-17 ?

WWJD ? A Christian "prepper" ? Is he interpreting Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32-37 as applicable today ?

Rev 20:14 Hell is thrown into the "lake of fire" as is the devil Rev 20:10 The Devil & some others will be there forever & ever yet is that the same for everyone else ? I'm leaning to NO .. "When Jesus returned " are you referring to 1 Thess 4:16-17 ?

Matt 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment I believe you HAVE A CAUSE when protecting the life of an innocent person therefore would not be in danger of judgement.

Hi Matt, """ it seems like the people needed to straighten up because if they didn’t have their act together""" If they have been ignorantly incorrectly taught by their church is it fair that they receive the same punishment as the Devil ? .. ""When Jesus returned.""" Are you referring to 1...

So you don't consider yourself to be one of the :- ""them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting."" 1 Tim 1:16:- Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on...

Yes, 100% correct, the 12 will YET FUTURE again have authority that they had before Paul Today it is Paul & not the 12 1 Tim 1:16 :- Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, Do you believe you are one of the following :- ? , for...

If someone is trying to kill you then whatever happens to them is their problem. If you've sinned by doing that your sin is forgiven if you have placed your faith, belief & trust in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Gal 1:11-12.

Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. """"huh? This verse is about the mercy of Jesus. That was first given to Paul & continues today. List the...

Idiotic comments are made by those who are unable to find Scripture to support their nonsense, I'm glad you're not like that :)

Were Adam & Eve saved & sealed with the HS Eph 1:13 by trusting the 1 Cor 15:1-4 Gospel as taught to Paul by only Christ Gal 1:11-12 ?

Good thread RVMB I do notice though that sadly you rarely post on this forum nowadays. .. The ANTI-PAUL nonsense is crystal clear on here.

Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. In me first << simple enough to them which should hereafter <<< where's the end date ? :)