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  1. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Don't born again Christians yet know that in type and anti-type, the words "the abomination that MAKETH desolate" (Dan. 11:31) was first fulfilled by Antiochus IV Epiphanese. That abomination, in approx.169 BC., was the  TYPE, but Jesus Himself is the ANTI-TYPE. In other words, when Jesus spoke...
  2. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I agree 100% God's foretelling of His Prophecies is not suddenly revealed from out of a fog bank of religious theories, fabricated by the will of man. God in His Eternity sees the past, present and future all at the same time. Isa.55:8-9. Therefore when He is speaking of future events taking...
  3. Earburner

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    I think that you should re-read that scripture (KJV) and hear the context of the matter with [My interpretation]. Paul said that he [himself] "knew a man". 2 Cor. 12:1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I [once] knew a man in...
  4. Earburner

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    I agree 100% And yes, John 3:13 is the scripture for that factual truth. 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but [except] he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
  5. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Awesome job Truth7t7 about MBtG. I agree 100%.
  6. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Yes we have been posting for a long time, and it's good to know you in the Lord brother. However, in all that we talk about, we are only observers in the Lord of how He works His will through time. That is why I always quote and point to all of 1 Cor. ch. 2. It reminds us to know that we who...
  7. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    No, you are making a futuristic connection for a "little horn", when there is no future for that which has already been historically fulfilled. Please study the historic fulfillment of that prophecy in 1&2 Maccabees Changes from what? The man made doctrines of church-ianity??
  8. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Absolute truth! Every unsaved person is the potential temple of God in which God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit seek to dwell within. If they choose to not come to repentance and have faith in the Lord Jesus, before their mortal death, then the judgment of the 2nd death REMAINS...
  9. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Of course! Instead of Born again Christians hearing Holy Spirit taught truth from the mind of Christ from within one's own self (1 Cor. 2:13,16), many find it easier to swallow "the wisdom of men", from the pharisaical agents of denominational Bible colleges and/or Seminaries. How else would...
  10. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Yes. And as "the natural man" is understood to be in the plural, so also is the case for "the man of sin".
  11. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    "The little horn" has nothing to do with "the man of sin", but "the natural man" does. Both are to be understood in the plural. "The beast" in Rev. is the fourth beast of Daniel, which is symbolic of the Roman empire. "The little horn" was fulfilled by one man named Antiochus Epiphanes, of the...
  12. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The words "except there come a falling away [of many] first", in verse 3, sets the format for all of 2 Thes. 2:3-10 to be understood in the PLURAL, which is exactly how "that spirit of antichrist" works. 1 John 4:3 And  EVERY spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is...
  13. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Yeah, when studying about 2 Thes. 2, the Pre-mil, Amil or Post-mil views do come into play, especially how one understands the 70 weeks of Daniel. It is at that point of understanding that much division occurs, long before 2 Thes. 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrug In much of...
  14. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Yes. I agree that we do not see eye to eye on the issues of what a biblical millennium actually is. Having that steep doctrinal difference between us is going to muddy the water in numerous ways, as it already has. Peace brother! *shrug*??? On an open public forum, it's as simple as this: I...
  15. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Could it be that you interpret the scripture of Rev. 20:6 from a perspective that is according to the Premil understanding and not that of the Amil understanding, as I do? Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that  HATH PART in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power...
  16. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    If a person lived and died under the OC. and had the permanency of the Holy Spirit dwelling within them,...when did they go to heaven/paradise? Please read Col. 1:18, then select your answer of either #1 or #2: 1. Immediately after their death. 2. Not until after "the First resurrection", who...
  17. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You don't get it at all. Do you not understand that Jesus Himself is "the First Resurrection" unto New and Eternal Life? If you are Born again, think on that for a minute, in conjunction with Rev. 20:6. Hopefully, you ALREADY "have taken part" in "the First Resurrection", by being Born again of...
  18. Earburner

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    If you want to deny the blood of Christ for the Atonement of sins, and then believe that YOU CAN HAVE the Gift of Eternal Life WITH OUT IT, then you will argue about everything, just so as to keep your pet doctrines.