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  1. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Nope, the dating of the Apocalypse by modern scholars, (circa 95-96AD), is based almost completely on the fabricated RCC story about "Antipas the martyr". The Apocalypse was also originally written in Hebrew and completed in the days leading up to the beheading of Yohanne. The "book of life of...
  2. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Nope, you're wrong, I have no problem with the opening context because , as I said, it speaks of the Anointed One, a man. Hebrews 1:1 1 πολυμερως και πολυτροπως παλαι ο θεος λαλησας τοις πατρασιν εν τοις προφηταις επ εσχατου των ημερων τουτων ελαλησεν ημιν εν υιω εν υιω ~ in a Son Do you...
  3. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Hebrews 1:5 says nothing about the resurrection, and in fact quotes a second passage found in the scripture, strongly implying that the Psa 2:7 quote is supposed to also be in the scripture, in the Gospel accounts, where the Father indeed spoke that decree to the Meshiah-Anointed One. The author...
  4. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    That is not it. This nomen sacrum is two Greek letters combined, the Iota, (Ι), and the Eta, (Η), with an overstrike to form the sacred name Ι̅Η, (nomen sacrum is Latin for sacred name and is not my invention, nomina sacra is simply the plural, sacred names). If you return to the source text...
  5. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Where have I said that? Where did you get "Jesus Christ" from? That consists of two nomina sacra, (sacred names), which were interpreted by the RCC a very long time ago. Why has no one ever questioned their interpretations of the nomina sacra? Why are you taught from traditions of men instead of...
  6. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    It seems to me that most end up making their own God these days. As for myself: the Father, YHWH Elohim Almighty of the Hebrews and of Yisrael. And to know Him and His Word whom He has sent is life eternal.
  7. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    You're now just showing yourself a liar again.
  8. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Again, I haven't said that there was a "pre-existent Christ", that's your game, and it's a stupid one: and it is equally as stupid to keep asking me to prove something I never said. Have you no reading comprehension whatsoever? NO, I DID NOT SAY THAT RUACH ELOHIM IS CHRIST. CHRIST WAS A MORTAL...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    The Son has life in himself because he is the Logos-Word of the Father, so of course the Father gave His Son to have Life in himself also. Did you never read the parable of the sower? The seed is the Logos, which is Living. I haven't said that there was a "pre-existent Christ", that's your game...
  10. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    That isn't really off topic at all. 1 Samuel 16:11-13 KJV 11 And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Send and fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither. 12...
  11. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    I don't think afterwards because the statement comes even while Saul/Sha'ul is still king. 1 Samuel 13:13-14 KJV 13 And Samuel said to Saul, Thou hast done foolishly: thou hast not kept the commandment of the LORD thy God, which he commanded thee: for now would the LORD have established thy...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Interesting and informative. Here we have koilia, (G2836), a cavity, which is also used in the birth narratives, it is typically used for the abdomen or stomach, or sometimes the womb is intended, (so they say), and it is figuratively used for the heart in the sense of the cavity containing...
  13. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    You started with an assertion for which you offered not an ounce of evidence or proof. How many pages do you propose it will take for you to actually prove that Psalm 21:4 is not speaking of David and instead speaking of your version of "Christ"? PS: Let's say you could actually prove your...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    In the beginning Elohim cuts down the heavens and the earth, and the earth becomes wasted and empty, and darkness upon the face of the deep, and Ruach Elohim is brooding over the face of the waters: [like a Dove] Matthew 3:16-17 16 And Ι̅Η haven been immersed went up straightway out of the...
  15. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    It can be understood either way but remember that David is said to be a man after the Fathers' own heart, (repeated in Acts 13:22), so in that sense David had a particular mold, a particular genos, a pattern or type of which he was by his nature, and which was sought for by the Father: that mold...
  16. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Yes, either that, or those who rendered the original "Matthew" Hebrew text into Greek did so, (Jerome made the claim, and one other, but I cannot remember the other off hand). Another clue in these types of passages are words based on tikto, (G5088), which is more for plant-life generating or...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Incorrect: Christ or Christos, (Meshiah), is the Anointed One, a man. No, the eternal Son is indeed ever-always in the bosom of the Father, on the right hand side: How many times has this nomen sacrum been explained to you now...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Gen 1:11-12 LXX -- "according to its kind", (genos). Gen 1:21 LXX -- "according to their kinds", (genos). Gen 1:24 LXX -- "according to its kind", (genos), "according to their kinds" (genos). Gen 1:25 LXX -- "according to its kind" (genos, (3 times)). In this context genos means the original...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    This one is in the Matthew narrative and is not called Jesus, rather, the nomen sacrum Iota-Eta, as previously explained. And he, being Emmanuel, the one and only one-of-a-kind Son who is ever in the bosom of the Father, has no beginning, no ending, and no genealogy. He is the same as...
  20. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Luke is the only one to mention the actual matrix and that is by way of a quote from the Torah. Luke 2:22-23 ASV 22 And when the days of their purification according to the law of Moses were fulfilled, they brought him up to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the law...