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  1. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    The law of righteousness given by God states that we become what we FINISH with...not what we start with. People who justify themselves based on a new birth don't understand righteousness and need to learn such IF they wish to progress and not just bury their talent of INITIAL grace. The full...
  2. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    So you are defending the man who received the first talent of initial grace and did nothing with it...??? If you were wise you would ask...why is there none who received MORE than one talent rejected???? Maybe more talents are given to those who use the first one properly. Do you think...
  3. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    That is as false as can be. This is your extremist black and white simplistic way to self-justify and take away righteousness from the righteous...to claim it exclusively for yourself. When Jesus called the Pharisees children of the devil He was being specific to RELIGIOUS people who claim to...
  4. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    I think you are missing the point here. Saul lacked good character...righteousness. And yet he received a new heart and became a new man by anointing by the Spirit. I don't know what it will take to wake up all these people who claim to be untouchable based on a claim of being born again. Saul...
  5. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    Concerning king Saul... 1 Sam 10:6 And the Spirit of the Lord will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man. 9 And it was so, that when he had turned his back to go from Samuel, God gave him another heart: and all those signs came to pass that day.
  6. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    Yes and agreed. However, the only spiritual battle of the saint is external to himself. Those who struggle with sin are still MIXED. The cross of Christ un-mixes people into a pure and holy walk by the keeping power of God, by crucifying the outer man sin nature that comes from the devil's...
  7. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    Jesus did not come to crush people. The devil's seed is not the same as him creating people. All souls are God's. You have yet to add that into the equation....so you are taking a wrong and polarized view...as MOST people will do...rather than finding the correct balance. The devil's seed is a...
  8. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    Of course. There is no "serpent seed" people whereby the devil created a different race. We are all human...all souls are God's. He says...ALL SOULS are mine. You might need a few years or so to wrap your head around that. Such confusion. Having accepted a god of your own creation...how...
  9. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    The New Man is made in the image of Christ that real saints are being conformed into...like being hammered into a mold. It is an outward/inward anointing. Put ON the New Man....put ON Christ. Put on His perfection and holiness.
  10. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    God gives grace to the humble...and not...God gives humility to the graceful. You are seeing things according to the natural man...who is blind to the truth.
  11. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    What you claim as being from Paul as your religious master is actually Luther's misrepresentation of Paul...all based on self-interest and NO connection whatsoever to the kingdom realm experience of a spiritual walk IN Christ.
  12. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    No one ever specifies WHY a person must be born again. It's the same problem we see with pre-destination. People go on flights of fancy and claim things that are NOT in the bible because they have been taught error based on human reasoning. All who call on the Lord will indeed be saved. But...
  13. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    We can see the saints in 2 categories...before the tribulation and during the tribulation. Few are made before the tribulation (144,000) And many saints are made through the pressure of the tribulation knowing that the time is short. (Didn't the early believers think they were the last...
  14. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    Paul clarifies the issue of the difference between the part of us that is made in God's image (inner man) and the part of us that is fallen in nature (outer man or "old man") Now some people confuse the inner man with the "New Man" who is to be worn outwardly as clothing OVER the inner man as a...
  15. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

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  16. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    The saints coming out of the tribulation. The righteous don't come back to life until the Millennial rule is over.
  17. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    You are mixing things up. There is a gift of grace and there is also the FULNESS of grace. One is a surprise gift at regeneration. And the other is BOUGHT at a cost of EVERYTHING...the price is the cross...which you will deny...since you can only afford the free stuff. Imputed righteousness is...
  18. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    This is true of election...being either being born a Jew (natural level) or else being called of God to run the race of faith on a spiritual level. Not all who are Jews are elected...not all who are called into the race of faith are elected to be saints. Many are called, few are chosen. There...
  19. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    sort of... But God predestines people to both be vessels of honour AND vessels of dishonour.....from the SAME LUMP. To be born again is just a start that qualifies a person for a higher race of faith. It does NOT necessarily lead to the likeness of Christ. Most won't run in the race of faith...
  20. Episkopos

    Predestination VS Free Will

    You mean what gives men a proper sense of reality? Well, not religious systems or the dogmas that come out of those. They create ideological illusions. Simplicity...a turning FROM pride. A brush with something much greater than oneself...whether human or divine.