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The Prophet Joel, whom Peter quotes in Acts 2 says: Acts 2:16 (KJV) But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; Acts 2:21 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Joel 2:1 (KJV) Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an...

Sure, it didn't have anything at all to do with the discussion before it but was only started not to derail that thread.....whatever! If you can't figure it out by reading it yourself, nothing I could say could convince you otherwise!

Yes, I believe it is a period of time that began when Christ came to earth a man. The prophets write of this coming period of time as "the day of the LORD" that was to come. This period of time that Christ ushered in with His first coming has an end, and that too in the New Testament is called...

That cannot be what happens after the return of Christ, because Scripture tells us that when the day of the Lord we are waiting for shall come it shall be accompanied by fire and destruction written here: 2 Peter 3:9-12 (KJV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count...

Who started this thread, carrying it over from another discussion? And who from the first post set the tone for all that has followed!

I really don't care what your issue is because you have been dishonest in what you've said regarding me personally. Therefore, as I said, I've grown weary of hearing your insults and belittling!

This is all assumption/speculation that Preterits must read INTO the Bible. You simply gloss over the fact that Luke makes no mention of AOD. That gives Preterits reason to believe the AOD was not as the other two gospel accounts portray, rather the AOD for the Preterits is viewed as the...

You're wrong here also! Christ says great tribulation is associated with YE (the disciples) shall see AOD. After saying to the disciples that THEY would see/understand/know AOD stand/appointed/established in the holy place. If the AOD is the Roman Army desecrating the holy temple in 70 AD...

Like I've already told you if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. If you defend Preterits by arguing great tribulation is for both Christ's disciples and the apostate nation, then you are endorsing and showing yourself a defender of Preterism, and if not now one, well on...

I'm just saying that you are wrong! Because trying to force fit great tribulation upon the apostate nation forces contradiction, because God promised unbelievers would receive His wrath, while also telling the disciples that in this life we must endure "great tribulation." Believers find great...

Where in Scripture can you prove the DATE of the prophecy was firmly fixed? Let me save you some time, because you cannot! The Preterit looking at history fulfilled then goes to the Bible to find the prophecy they can fit into that specific date. That's allowing history to inform biblical...

Christ Himself ordained that the church in unrepentant sin would suffer "great tribulation" from the evil within, and He would allow evil within to bring the church to utter ruin IF they did not repent. Those unrepentant, rebellious people like Jezebel are part of the church on this earth.

That is NOT true Marty! The Bible nowhere put a time stamp on the prophecy for when the apostate nation would come to ruin! We know now from historical fulfillment written by historians. Jesus did NOT say when, only that it would happen! Christ's only specific mention of the apostate nation...

Are you being obtuse? It's the DATE not the prophecy that is NOWHERE found in Scripture!!! Civil discourse with you only continues until one disagrees with your understanding.

You're absolutely right! What I said was belittling and ungodly and came from the mindset of returning evil for evil! Which is why I detest how both you and WPM always turn discussions into belittling and ungodly whenever someone disagrees with your understanding of doctrine. We are all...

I have no desire to rehash your posts, not because I am avoiding them, but because they have become a means for belittling, and engaging in ungodly back and forth that only serves to bring down other Christians!

Have you also become a mind reader! You know what every other Christian upon the earth believes regarding this particular verse? What you arrogantly accuse me of is what you are guilty of. Just listen to yourself, doctrine can only be truth when you learn it from others???

The year 70 AD is found NOWHERE is Sacred Scripture! It's known to us only through historical fulfillment. Preterits use the historical writings of Josephus who writes of that particular date. That is all well and good, and his writings go into great detail about all of the horrors for Israel...

Good morning to you as well! Fortunately going on 75 years, having retired I'm happy to say I no longer have a daily workload, so most days I'm able to spend much time in reading and study of God's Word. I am exceedingly blessed of God! Have a blessed day!

That's a good thing, it's good to know that Christians are reading and praying for themselves. And yes I agree it is for me also a continual joy and walk with the Holy Spirit of Truth. That's why it surprised me to read your reply to my post as though you believe I haven't learned and studied...