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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    2 Thes 1: [1] Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: [2] Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. [3] We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that...
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    When Jesus “comes”, can be misconstrued…. Jesus descends From “High above the Heavens”… To the clouds…that is not a return to earth. To A white Cloud…that is not a return to earth. The “Return” is when Jesus, continues to Descend, and Sets His feet on the Earth.
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    In brief…not exclusive. A seven year period of time. Series of 3 sets of Judgements. Each “set” has a set of 7 Judgements. Purpose; Set 1, Lambs Judgements. * Anger / Wrath of the Lamb, for being rejected. Loosing of Satan “with Authority.” To conquer, rule. * Set 2, mixed with woes. Gods...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    People Guess, how many animals were on Noah’s Ark…Guessing…thousands to millions. My guess would be…(excluding birds)… tops at maybe 500 (KINDS) of properly “paired” animals. Glory to God, Taken
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    @Spiritual Israelite Back to original thread title. Rapture is Pretrib. Christs “Church” is already Prepared to be risen up (to the clouds) in their glorified body, with their saved soul and quickened spirit. They in Christ from there forth are always with the Lord. Believers…(not converted...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Many have… what we would “natural talents / abilities”…( which I believe are spiritual gifts ) Not ALL use their talents to glorify God… Was my point.
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    Yes. When they are Raptured. They raised in their new bodies, and can for the first time…see Him “as He is” / Spirit.
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    Oh… ya… ok gotcha…TOTALY makes no sense…TY. “Correction, should read “pre- Trib rapture”… Post from my phone… and don’t proof read…oops.
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    Because… The Raptured saints return to Earth WITH Jesus. 1 Thes 4: [16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    God IS Spirit. God HAS Spirits… For example Spirit of WISDOM… Spirit of TRUTH God is Giving by, through, of His Spirits…men…individual “strengths. Talents. Etc” One man may do well in THIS, while another does well in THAT. One may use his “gift” for good and another for “evil”…
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    Isaiah 6 Discussion

    Thanks. I believe, Big Picture… God IS ONE God… As man is ONE man. God the Creator and Maker. Man the Created, in His Likeness, His image. Simplistically… God Above All…(and men? Range what they believe) God Fills many “Roles”…as does man God has multiple Names “attached” to such Roles…as...
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    I was speaking…NOT of members, but “the difference in Churches… Man made… different by denominations. Christ Church…men IN Christ. Partly true. The man also knows. Many are “Tasters”…(can temporarily enjoy faith, blessings and fall away) Few are “Eaters”…(can Never fall away from Faith) And...
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    Isaiah 6 Discussion

    Thanks… My POV is … *ManKIND, *AnimalKIND, *AngelKIND, *PlantKIND Are diverse… *In Appearance… *In Purpose… Of course, man can SEE, men, animals, plants… and recognize by appearance, and figure their purpose. Angels, are spirits, invisible to Human eyes, BUT with great POWER, to Appear...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Yes. Never said otherwise. Yes, Already addressed that…men are gifted particular, not All. And WHAT specifically indicated to you, that I never considered or thought of the Number Seven having a spiritual Significance? Some (including myself) have Already become Complete “IN” Christ. My...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    What is written is Knowledge… Not understanding. You are not unique to “go by” / Trust the knowledge that is “written”…. So also do they with Spiritual Understanding / Discernment. Spiritual Understanding… IS a Gift from God, regarding WHAT HIS words of Knowledge MEANS according TO God...
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    Okay I did not say that. Yes, of course… BEFORE Jesus comes….AND AFTER Jesus COMES….”Saints” Glorify Jesus. Also…AFTER Jesus Comes… There IS Judgement. Judgement Applies TO ALL men… The Judg-ED will All stand before the Judge. * Saints… who Believ-ed without SEEING. * Men…who Believe, because...
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    Hi Jeff- Yes… but you didn’t identify “That one church”. Point being… Reality…VS…Spiritual Denominations…VS…Spiritual Protestant…VS…Spiritual Catholic…VS…Spiritual Reality, is Some Denominations members can / do highlight “Their Denomination” IS the “TRUE” Church. Spiritually, The “True”...
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    Isaiah 6 Discussion

    :thumbsup: We home study, nearly daily. We fellowship with whomever, where-ever we encounter others. I would say Seraphim are True / Real…have specific purposes, Humble Praising, Worshiping God, also assist in cleansing men from their Sin. Glory to God, Taken
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    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    I believe there are clarifying Distinctions… What Church? …Man-made called Christian churches? Or …Christ Jesus’ Church? Believers… What Believers? Believe, doubt, believe, not sure, etc. still living in their natural flesh? Or “converted Believers”, having Already been forgiven, soul...