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Yeah, I'm not sure what it will be, but it is a real mark. Without it you cannot buy nor sell. You bring up John 6 and 10 about His sheep "given to Jesus by His Father." I don't know about chapter 8 (I'll read it tonight in bed). The question of WHO are those sheep "given to Jesus by His...

I hope he gets back to me to describe "probation" and what and why it is necessary. Is it in the future or the past. Still haven't a clue what it is about. I doubt it; I was surprised to find that Trinitarians believe the Trinity is three separate persons. After all, we humans are made in Their...

I still think Romans 11:25-26 is national Israel being saved during the Great Tribulation.

I don't think we are in a "period of tribulation" like the Great Tribulation yet. Why do you? If there are any other groups using the word "probation" to mean whatever it is they think it is, it may be the JW's. But "born again" is Scriptural, where "probation" is not. I don't think so as...

Why use the word "probation" that is not in the Bible, instead of simply using "born again of the Spirit" which is? Are you SDA also? No Gentile will come to Christ after the Great Tribulation starts, only Jews. All the Gentiles that have not come to Christ when they had a chance will receive a...

In John 15:3-4 what do you think is "clean"? Here is 1-4 for context. “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because...

@Rockerduck @Lambano @LoveYeshua @Armour of God @IndianaRob @Debp @SavedInHim @complete Ever since Adam disobeyed God, and obeyed the devil, our nature changed from a clean human nature to a sin nature. It is that nature that must be born again, because Romans 3 tells us that all have sinned and...

The Bible says we learn obedience through suffering. I got to know that first hand and grew stronger in my faith.

Probation. That sound like Seventh-day Adventist. Is it? I was raised SDA, but I can't remember what is meant by probation, nor when probation closes. But I've heard of it. The way I see end times is based on Romans 11:25-26, and the last Gentile that God knows wants to be saved, believes. Then...

Yes. Have you noticed that the first and the last four are ALL to the end as they are denominations. The first and sixth are the same doctrine. The second and the GT are also the same as those Christians are martyrs.

It was done out of love. Have fun with your passages out of context of the whole. But NO DISSING YOUR BRETHREN about any of this out of malice and rotten fruit. Jesus dissed the Pharisees, but it was for them to look at themselves - for their own good, and He did win some over. Jesus also said...

I agree about the three denomination types that still need to "overcome." But the Philadelphians will not have to be martyred, "10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the...

By the way, in Rev. 12:1 who do you see as "the woman" that gives birth to the Child?

The letters to the seven churches are what is called a three-fold prophecy. To those when John was alive it was to those particular churches. And I agree with you that the second fold are people types throughout the New Covenant Church. It is only now that we can look back at church history and...

All these promises are for the Philadelphian type Christian. But there are three other types that don't automatically receive the Philadelphian promises you spoke of. Thyatira is even warned if they don't stop giving homage to Jezebel with their idols and rosary to her they will go through great...

I read this and was going to give you a gold star as not many recognize the "dirty robes" as I have myself, and I was happy to see that you do too! You may have even learned that from me as I have already given by interpretation of Scripture many times on the forums. But then you kept writing...

Yeah, but He's not going to burn Himself up! ;)

I'm ready. It doesn't matter how Scripture is interpreted or plays out. But are you? You only see escape, and are counting on it. So are you preparing yourself that you may be wrong? It sure doesn't look like it. After all, Rev. 12:17 shows Christians here during the GT.

Like with fervent heat...

I see you believe in the second coming of Jesus. When will you be raised from the dead? Will Jesus destroy this earth?