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Your idea of Israel, dad, who Israel is, who makes up God's Israel is far, far too small. You will be offended at that, but that's not my intention at all. There is no Jew or Gentile; we are all one in Christ Jesus. Lesser Israel, yes. But greater Israel, God's true Israel, His household...

I did; you missed (or possibly ignored) my point concerning that (specifically the word 'testament'). Sure, and I acknowledged that. Not so. See above. Ahhhh... <smile> It might be better to talk about what the covenant of works is first, and when and with whom it was made: In the...

Sure they were.The land promised to Abraham and his immediate progeny was a sliver of land on the eastern end of what is now the Mediterranean Sea, but the greater reality of that promised land is the whole earth. Yes, specific in both respects/instances, but the ultimate far greater than the...

Ah, well, yes and no. The promise of land in God's covenant with Abraham was a type, a shadow, of the real promise, so "lesser" in that sense, and indicative of the greater promise to come. The greater promise of land came in the Person of Jesus Christ, Who said... [in the New Testament, of...

See above. If you still don't understand... or don't buy it... as I said, that's okay with me. I don't think, like, "just to argue" is your intention, but... it's enough. Strongly disagree; God knew that Abraham's faith and obedience, like all of ours, would not be perfect. And... we are all...

Okay, well, I disagree. And that's okay. But... was not God's covenant with Abraham specifically, His... obligatory agreement... with Abraham (the splitting of the animals in Genesis 15) that He, God, would be the one responsible (and punished by blood, death , of course) for both ends of the...

Grace and peace to you.

@Spiritual Israelite @covenantee As I said before, Jesus is the mediator of the covenant of grace, which was made with Adam upon his Fall. Previous to that, Adam was the mediator of the covenant of works, which, upon the Fall, he ~ and all humanity ~ became incapable of meeting. Christ...

The New Covenant and the New Testament are two different things. We disagree, obviously. Grace and peace, covenantee.

Disagree; this is a conflation. You just said a little while ago that a testament is a will, and a covenant is an agreement between two parties. Fortunately, we have a Mediator... of a covenant ~ the covenant of grace ~ that has been in effect since the Fall in Genesis 3, and Jesus has been the...

Covenants. Covenantee. :) A covenant and a testament are two very different things... Right, I didn't say or imply otherwise. Then again, though, if we speak of God's Israel, she inherits... everything. <smile> Grace and peace.

Sure. And the greater reality of it. Grace and peace.

Disagree. The Cival and Ceremonial laws are not in effect, but the Moral certainly is, and fully fleshed out in all Jesus's "but I tell you" statements... and the greatest and second commandments, "love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind," and...

Well of course there are. <smile> For someone who is so dug in on what he's dug in on, as you are, it seems it wouldn't be very difficult at all, really. Hmmmm... Maybe, but the Holy Spirit can overcome that, for sure. Grace and peace to you.

I love this little poem... Trees Joyce Kilmer 1886 – 1918 I think that I shall never see A poem lovely as a tree. A tree whose hungry mouth is prest Against the earth's sweet flowing breast; A tree that looks at God all day, And lifts her leafy arms to pray; A tree that may in summer wear A nest...

The fig tree is about bearing fruit ~ the fruit of the Spirit ~ or not. Goodness gracious. The ones that bear this fruit are the ones who will be the ones on Jesus's right in the final Judgment, having been resurrected to eternal life, and the ones who do not are the ones who will be on His...

Well, He's specifically talking about the period that began with his birth and will really get going with the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, but yes, continuing through history, through the entire New Testament period, the Church age, yes, but up to the occurrence of what Paul talks...

Well, great! You learned… well, something, at least… <smile> Actually, I hit the Save button by mistake and had been editing my post…. <chuckles> Grace and peace!

Sure. But I disagree with you specifically with regard to how you framed what you said, particularly the word ‘usually’ here: “I do agree w/ some of Rev. using symbolism, but when it does it is usually explained somewhere else in the context.” Hm. Well okay, then. <smile> I say that’s quite...

That’s been clear from the outset. However, as I’ve said many times now, just because the symbolism in Revelation (and other like parts of God’s Word) is so prevalent and heavily used does not mean that real, literal… things… cannot be or are not to be seen and understood in reading it; quite...