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The belief that Matthew 24:4-34 was completely fulfilled within Jesus’ generation is itself not a “framework” imported into the text— it’s a conclusion drawn from the text itself through context, grammar, syntax, historicity, and audience relevance. That’s why even theologians from non-preterist...

I absolutely agree that they did not live through the events according to your own interpretative framework that you import onto those texts - i agree no image of the beast spoke within Jesus’ generation, according to your interpretation of that event in revelation 13. I agree the 2nd coming...

i absolutely agree the disciples didn’t live through the events according to your interpretive framework. I agree, it would be false according to your biblical framework. But contrary to your framework, the apostles claimed it was near (James 5:8-9), that the end had drawn near ( 1 Peter...

Thanks for clarifying. I completely agree with this. I think our approaches to getting there were just different (hyperbolic/idiomatic vs literal), and that’s where the confusion was.

As I’ve already stated, I absolutely agree the events didn’t unfold according to your framework. And I rebutted that - Not knowing the exact day nor hour is not the same as not knowing the general time frame. Greek Grammar – A verb is set in the indicative mood in order to make a statement or...

“Unlike” any other tribulation in what way? Thats what I’m trying to ascertain. That wasn’t my intention. I only provided two examples so as to help get my point across. I didn’t mean there were only 2 options as to what you were trying to say.

The word “unlike” seems to be another part of where the confusion lies. Do you mean that the great tribulation is unlike other tribulations in category — like saying the earth is unlike the sun? Or do you mean it’s unlike in degree — like saying the heat of the sun is unlike the heat of a lamp...

if your hermeneutic is correct, you shouldn’t need ad hominems I think it’s the gathering into the kingdom of God that took place within Jesus’ first century generation

Correct, in the context of 1 john 2:18, it does not mean 60 literal minutes. According to thayer’s lexicon, “hour” means the following in the context of 1 John 2:18: “the last hour i. e. the end of this age and very near the return of Christ from heaven (see ἔσχατος, 1, p. 253b), 1 John...

The “concept” is present: Matthew 24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— I mean, I completely agree, history doesn’t record a literal, physical, visible, and bodily descension...

James said the coming was near and the judge was at the door in James 5:8-9, alluding to Jesus’ statement that when you see all these things know (for a fact) that he is near, right at the door. Grammatically, contextually, and linguistically highly unlikely. Right……. Present “aspect”...

Correct it is a parable. The parable comes with no explanation as to the meaning of each component. That being said - the gathering of the good and bad into the wedding hall occurs POST the destruction of the city in the narrative. In what manner it is supposed to be interpreted - whether about...

Well, I never argued that “great” refers to geographical distance — but you seem to think I did? That seems to be where some of the confusion lies. Grammatically and linguistically, the term “great” refers to the severity, intensity, or degree of the tribulation. The destruction of Jerusalem...

Thank you for clarifying.

Thank you for clarifying. IF no first century destruction of the temple is mentioned in the discourse simply BECAUSE you personally believe the entire discourse is about 2000 years removed future events, That’s a subjective interpretation based on framework - an exegetical fallacy.

Well, Jesus did say that when they saw the events of the Olivet Discourse unfolding, they would know that it was near — right at the door. The Greek verb translated “know” is 2nd person, present indicative active: 2nd person – “you”; Jesus is directly addressing His disciples. Present – the...

It literally is: 7The king was angry, and he sent his troops and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding feast is ready, but those invited were not worthy. 9Go therefore to the main roads and invite to the wedding feast as many as you find.’...

Per Thayer’s Lexicon, the adjective “great” is defined as indicating intensity or degree. In the context of Matthew 24:21. The phrase “has not been nor shall ever be” expresses a superlative idea, emphasizing that this tribulation’s intensity is unmatched in history or future. So I’m not sure...

Your distinction between symbolic entities and literal predicates isn’t biblically or literarily sustainable. Apocalyptic literature frequently employs symbolic agents executing symbolic actions — that’s part of the genre. You’re treating the actions as though they must have a one-to-one...

It’s a GATHERING of good and bad into the wedding hall after the destruction of the city. Only according to your subjective framework.