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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Ah, that’s the issue. The church is under the new covenant and that covenant is the mother of us all, it is what is married, not the church itself. The problem with saying the church is the bride is that Paul says the old covenant is old Jerusalem the new covenant is new Jerusalem, and it’s...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    The earth is His footstool and He remains at the right hand of God until His enemies are His footstool. How are you defining “footstool”? It means being in subject to or being defeated, right? And death is the last enemy, right?
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    No you didn’t, there is a large amount of doubt that you didn’t address. I showed you Luke 20:35 where people who are resurrected from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, they are as the angels in heaven. This is an important point that you didn’t address. Also when Paul’s literary...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Ok, I guess it up the the Amill folks to give an explanation of why they hold a single event view and yet don’t think Revelation 19:11 and 1 Thessalonians 4:14 are the same event, if that’s their view.
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    I think ChatGPT is very helpful, I wouldn’t trust it for truth but it can give different viewpoints. I think if you were to ask it what are the arguments for and against heaven opening in Revelation 19:11 being the same event as 1 Thessalonians 4:14, then you might get more people involved in...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    But you are assuming Jesus’s bride is the church. Right, just like Paul isn’t saying the church is the bride in Ephesians 5. That’s my point, Paul talks as if he is a mother, father, or that he espouses them but that’s his way of communicating a thought. The church isn’t the bride anymore than...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Ephesians 5:22-32 does give the impression that the Church is the bride but if we draw an absolute conclusion from that then it creates issues. For example, in verse 26 it is Christ that sanctifies and cleanses yet in Revelation 19:7 it is the bride that makes herself ready. In verse 27 Christ...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. Here are my thoughts, in Isaiah 62:4 the last phrase in that verse is...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    I’ve come across the idea that the marriage supper is the Lord’s supper and those that are partaking of it unworthy are not eating and drink his blood but are eating the flesh of men. So in this view the fowls of the air are the unsaved that claim to be saved. Personally I’m not sure how...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Well the earth is His footstool. I think “the earth” can have several different meanings and I’m not trying to pin down any particular one but to me it looks like the earth is not the enemy, then at some point it does become the enemy and then Christ is no longer in position of being seated at...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    I think I agree with your post. Let me ask you this, in Matthew 5:35 the earth is His footstool. In Psalm 110:1 Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Does Christ sit at the right hand of God (and all that that means) until the earth is made His enemy?
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    I think most people would agree that the armies in Revelation 19:14 are the same folks in Revelation 19:7-8. I don’t personally think the bride of Christ is the Church but since most others do I don’t want to get into that debate, let’s just assume they are the same. The armies in heaven are...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Ok, fair enough, I can see how “seated at the right hand of God” can be interpreted as a position of authority not a literal physical position. However, I would say Revelation 19 isn’t talking about a literal physical white horse, it has spiritual meaning. So if an Amill claims the fight in...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Hey Marty, Jesus sits at the right hand of God until His enemies are made His footstool. If Jesus remains in heaven in Revelation 19 then what you’re saying would make sense. If Jesus leaves heaven to fight His enemies in Revelation 19 then that looks like He doesn’t remain seated at the right...
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    How were disciples supposed to know when to run away?

    That’s a good question. I’ve looked at this before and what I see is the “one taken and the other left” phase could possibly be interpreted as one received the message and one didn’t. The word taken, or shall be taken, is <3880> paralambano. One of the definitions of that word from Thayer’s...
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Well if their not then how can Zechariah 14:11 be true before the current earth is destroyed? Zechariah 14:11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    It appears you have the current earth and heavens lasting forever, but in a cleansed or transformed into a perfect physical state in the future. Would you agree that a spiritual perfect state happened at the cross and that is depicted as the heavenly Jerusalem in verses such as Hebrews 12:22...
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    Ok, in Revelation 21:1 it says And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Wouldn’t this mean that the earthly Jerusalem does see destruction when the first heaven and first earth pass away? Keep in mind Zechariah...
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    One thing I have observed about Zechariah 14 is that it talks about both the earthly Jerusalem and new Jerusalem but it never makes the distinction between the two, it just calls them both Jerusalem. Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be...
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    All I can say is that I’m praying for you brother.