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Bs"d Here we have Psalm 69, good for four "messianic prophecies". Let's now look at Psalm 69 inside: "Those who hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of my head; They are mighty who would destroy me, being my enemies wrongfully; though I have stolen nothing, I still must restore...

Bs"d They can hold that position, but it is based on nothing but wishful thinking. Considering the fact that 2000 years later it is still not done, I don't think we can say that "it is as good as done".

Bs"d The offspring of the woman is all of mankind. To say that that speaks about the messiah is over the top. Maybe it ALSO speaks about the coming messiah, but it surely is not pointing to it. It points to all of mankind. Calling this a messianic prophecy is absurd.

Bs"d You can accept that, but objectively, there is of course no messiah to been seen in Gen 3:15. Nowhere here is spoken about a messiah, nowhere does it speak about a king or a ruler like it does in the genuine messianic prophecies, here is not spoken about a descendant of David or his...

Bs"d "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will strike your head, and you will strike his heel.’" Gen 3:15 Where is the messiah in this verse?

Bs"d The above is an abbreviation of the Aramaic expression "Ba siata desmaya", and that means: "With the help of Heaven". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Besiyata_Dishmaya

sdgs Bs"d Are you saying that the texts of Frydland are all from rabbinic sources, and not from the Tanach? Well, Daniel 9 speaks about 2 messiahs, but neither was THE messiah. Two messiahs in Daniel 9, and then THE messiah, is already three messiahs. So I'm not of the two messiah...

Bs"d Can you maybe list some of them here?

Bs"d Wrong. The genealogies are not of JC, but of Joseph, who was not his father. So those genealogies have no bearing on JC. Bs"d Of the two messiahs in Daniel 9, not one them was THE messiah, the final messiah who is going to fulfill the messianic prophecies. Just read the plain text...

Bs"d Daniel 9 speaks about two messiah's but not about THE messiah. For the finer details look here: Daniel 9

Bs"d Never seen those predictions. Where can I find them? King Solomon, the richest man on earth in his days, rode a donkey during his inauguration. Can't say that he was humiliated. I don't believe in a sick and dying messiah. I explain it like this: The cloud lands at the...

Bs"d The messiah is going to be Jewish, and in male line a descendant of king David. In that JC also failed. He had no human father, therefore he was not in male line a descendant of David, therefore he cannot be the messiah.

Bs"d Which one of Daniel?

Bs"d Why are those two advents of the messiah not written in the Tanach? Like I said, the whole messiah subject is not important, it is no big deal in Judaism. What is a big deal, is that you cannot worship anybody but the one and only true God Y-H-W-H who is one.

Bs"d So let's take a closer look at the messianic prophecies claimed by the NT, which are fulfilled by the Christian messiah. Here you can read something about them: NT prophecies When I saw that he had not fulfilled the messianic prophecies, it was over.

Bs"d Totally correct. Without the expectation of a suffering and dying messiah, that means; without being a Christian, it is impossible for instance, to see the messiah in Isaiah 53. Well, many other animals, also bulls, goats, doves, were sacrificed before the Sanctuary. And to make the...

Bs"d Don't you think that when more than 99% of the followers of a certain religion go wrong, that maybe there is something fundamentally wrong with that religion? Why is it, you think, that so many Christians go wrong? Could it be that the NT steers them wrong?

Bs"d So he said that his kingdom is not of this world and it wasn't. But the messianic prophecies say that the messiah's kingdom will be from this earth. So he doesn't fit as the messiah that is prophesied by the prophets in the Hebrew Bible.

Bs"d We'll have to see about that. Which messianic prophecies have been fulfilled according to you? I've been raised in the same kind of Christianity, but when I saw the light I converted to orthodox Judaism.

Bs"d Did you ever find even one Christian who not only claims to follow the words and commands of JC, but also DOES them? See here what JC himself says about the commandments: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For...