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    The Trinity

    ....................................... Personification of things is very common in the NT. Ro 8:26 - the pronoun auto is neuter and refers back to a noun (‘spirit’ in this case) which is also in the neuter case. So KJV and a few others properly translate auto in this verse as “itself.”...
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    The Trinity

    ...................................... A NT language expert highly respected by trinitarians tells us that Bible phrases beginning “in the name of...” indicate that the secondary meaning of “authority” or “power” was intended by the Bible writer. - p. 772, Vine. Therefore, Matt. 28:19 actually...
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    Divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Yes, and the fact that it has faded so quickly in comparison to the rest of the 'theta' shows that the bar was a forgery which used a less permanent ink than the original.
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    The Case For The Triune GodHead!

    ............................................ It is true that the word for God (theos) in the New Testament is masculine, and masculine pronouns (“he,” “him,” “himself”) are always used with it. The word “Father” is also in the masculine gender in the original Greek of the NT, and masculine...
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    Divinity of Jesus Christ!

    ............................................................... 1 Tim. 3:16 (“God was manifest in the flesh”) As this is translated in the KJV it makes Paul say that Jesus is God “manifest in the flesh.” Although the KJV translates 1 Tim. 3:16 with “God” as above, nearly all other...
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    The Trinity

    GodsGrace wrote (#430): 1. Jesus said He was going to His God because God IS HIS FATHER. Jesus eminated from God. This is what non-trinitarians cannot understand. Christianity believes that Jesus was BEGOTTEN, NOT MADE... Not Made means that Begotten DOES NOT mean made...
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    The Case For The Triune GodHead!

    ....................................................... Arius believed that Jesus was created by the Father and is not equal to God (as did most of the Bishops at the Council of Nicea). I agree with that. There are some other things he believed which I don’t agree with. I also agree with the...
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    The Case For The Triune GodHead!

    You're mistaken. God is love (feminine). Jesus is called a lamb (neuter), Rev. 14:1. I'm sure that with just a little effort you can find more. Even most (if not all) Ante-Nicene Fathers understood proverbs 8:22 - 30 as describing Christ. I believe they understood the language better than...
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    The Trinity

    GodsGrace wrote: "In the year 180, when Christianity was still pure, Irenaeus taught this: For with Him were always present the Word and Wisdom (Jesus and the Holy Spirit, as He is called in the O.T.) the Son and the Spirit, by whom and in whom, freely and spontaneously, He made all things. This...
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    Divinity of Jesus Christ!

    The Bible IS Greek and Hebrew!
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    Divinity of Jesus Christ!

    ......................................................... "They worshiped Jesus and only God can be worshiped!" The words in the original languages which are translated "worship" in KJV and many others are shachah (Hebrew) and proskuneo (NT Greek). The Greek word proskuneo (or proskyneo) is...
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    The Trinity

    ....................................... Immanuel Should Jesus really be considered to be God because he was symbolically “named” Immanuel (Is. 7:14; Mt. 1:23) which means “God is with us”? No more so than Gabriel was calling himself God when he visited Mary and declared: “The Lord is...
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    The Trinity

    If you look at other NT texts than the flawed Received Text, you will see that many modern texts have monogenes theos. Also the p66 and p75 manuscripts dated to the second century have onlybegotten theos.
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    Divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Post wrote: "Proverbs 8:22 says YHWH "possessed" Wisdom at the beginning of His way. ((when is the beginning of God?)) the word create is not in the text. "why do you lie and twist scripture? is it not because the actual Word of God offends you? "did ya figure no one would look any of that...
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    The Trinity

    GodsGrace wrote: You say that whenever God is in a verse in comparison to Jesus, it proves that Jesus is not God. What does this sentence mean?: John 20:28 28Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” (referring to Jesus) Titus 2:13 13looking for the blessed hope and the appearing...
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    The Trinity

    Aunty Jane was referring to John 1:18 "monogenes theos" not John 3:16. John1:1c is better translated "And the Word was a god." Examining the Trinity: John 1:1c Primer - For Grammatical Rules That Supposedly "Prove" the Trinity or Examining the Trinity
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    Divinity of Jesus Christ!

    ............................................................ First, it is Irenaeus, not Iranaeus. Second, the existing manuscript has been modified by trinitarian copyists through the centuries who (if they wished to keep their heads) would never add non-trinitarian passages to their copies...
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    The Trinity

    ............................................................. It's not unusual for people to 'see' what they want to see. Examining the Trinity: David and the 'Holy' Quadrinity
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    The Trinity

    GodsGrace wrote: "Where was Apostle John showing that believing Jesus is God a salvation issue?" .............................................................. John never says that. However, the identity of the only true God and of the Christ are said to be necessary. John quoted Jesus as...
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    Understanding the Trinity.

    Thank you Wrangler and APAK. My blog is Examining the Trinity There is a pretty good index at the upper right of the blog page (thanks to my son!)