Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Harvest 1874

    Where are the Dead? Part 3

    THE PENALTY OF THE LAW "God said to Adam, “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” (Gen 2:17) If the soul is immortal, then God did not mean what he said, because an immortal creature could not be put to...
  2. Harvest 1874

    Where are the Dead? Part 2

    It is our position that, the scriptures clearly teach that the dead are unconscious between the moment of death and the moment of awakening to the resurrection. If this proposition is not affirmatively true, as stated, then we must conclude: 1. That man, after death, continues mentally active...
  3. Harvest 1874

    Where are the Dead? Part 1

    This study was raised due to some erroneous assumptions being made on this forum concerning the whereabouts of the dead following death, with some believing they go immediately to heaven or to hell. Excerpts for this study came from a debate entitled “Where are the Dead?” Now both the heathen...
  4. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Sorry my friend but there's no scriptural support for the belief that God gives eternal life to anyone prior to them having been tried, proven and found faithful. If our Lord had to be tried and proven before he received eternal life what makes you think you don't? The word of the Lord is, "Be...
  5. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Your statement here is contradictory, on the one hand you claim John 3:18; 1 John 5:12, 13 and Romans 8:8, 9 speak “vehemently” against the idea that every man must be tested before receiving eternal life. And then you quote Matt 24:24 (?) and John 10:28, 29 as “Proof of being eternally saved...
  6. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    As the body is composed of many members so we are all one body in Christ. As grapes when making wine are crushed and lose their individuality, so we likewise lose our individuality and are one in Christ.
  7. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    No we are not Universalist. We believe that the ransom sacrifice of Christ is sufficient for the sins of all men, and as such all men have been saved from the Adamic curse which resides upon them all, this however does not guarantee eternal salvation to any, that will be dependent upon the...
  8. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Being a member of the largest and most well known cult of all (Babylon the Great) you should known.
  9. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    This is the nominal churches view, and even among many nominal Christians its hard to swallow. Most nominal ministers don't believe it and that is why it is not taught much anymore save by the few "fire and brimstone" teachers still out there, most of these found on the internet as most churches...
  10. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    "Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. Yes...
  11. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    God's word does not contradict itself, if we find one area in which it states one thing and another where it "seems" to say something in contradiction then we can be assure that the fault lies not with the word of God but with ourselves and with our own understanding and/or lack thereof. In...
  12. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    See the blog post, "The Rich Man and Lazarus" for a better understanding of this parable. You might likewise like to see our reply to a forum members suggestion that we, Highlight the parts of Jesus' teaching of his doctrine, "YOU" claim are NOT Factual Truths This is found under another...
  13. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Now you are attempting to use a parable to justify your position. The Lazarus in the parable has nothing to do with the real Lazarus whom the Lord raised from the dead.
  14. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    None of these verses you quoted imply that immediately upon death you go to heaven, where do you get this idea? Confusion on this issue is to be laid at the feet of the blind guides of Christendom, ministers who preach of the resurrection on Sunday and then on Tuesday while giving a eulogy for...
  15. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    As we tried to explain in Post # 13
  16. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    Judgement does indeed begin with the house of God, it began with its Head our Lord Jesus Christ and has continued to take place amongst his true followers (the saints) all these past 2000 plus years, such are presently on trial for life or death while the rest of mankind will come into judgement...
  17. Harvest 1874

    No-one has gone to heaven?

    A distinction here should be made between the dead in Christ who are raised incorruptible and the rest of the dead of mankind not yet reconciled with God. The dead of the world will still be susceptible to sin and to failures in the kingdom, but they will be under the New Covenant arrangement...
  18. Harvest 1874

    Hell . . . The Bad News.

    Adam was never immortal nor did he ever posses such by eating from the tree of life, God alone was the only immortal being at the time of Adam's creation (possessing inherent life, self existence, a life not dependent on any outside source). Adam on the other hand was reliant upon the great...
  19. Harvest 1874

    The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant, not the New Covenant, Part 12

    Will the ancient worthies be in relationship with God during the millennial age? “Yes, the ancient worthies will be in covenant relationship with God through the New Covenant, through the Mediator of the New Covenant, throughout the millennial age; but they will not be in any personal, direct...
    • Harvest 1874
    • Blog entry
    • 2 min read
    • covenant the abrahamic covenant the ancient worthies the new covenant
    • Category: General
  20. Harvest 1874

    The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant, not the New Covenant, Part 11

    Were the Ancient Worthies on trial for life? “The Ancient Worthies were not on trial for life or death; they were never brought to that condition of intelligent opportunity for eternal life which would make them amenable to a sentence of death. Such a condition of knowledge and opportunity did...
    • Harvest 1874
    • Blog entry
    • 4 min read
    • covenant revelation the abrahamic covenant the ancient worthies the new covenant
    • Category: General
Top Bottom