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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, Read Joel chapter 2. In the first part of the chapter, Christ's army is presented. They are the Elect who are reigning with Christ. The setting is the judgment of the lost in the final age. Read down to verse 18 where it says that the Lord will have pity (mercy) upon them. Joel...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, The child of God is governed by the Spirit. It is the Spirit that does the work through us. Also, salvation is not limited to this lifetime. However, being an heir/First Fruit/Elect is limited to this age. You should keep this difference in mind as you study scripture. Joe
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, The Elect are saved PRIOR to their judgment coming upon them. Because salvation comes first, they will not experience wrath during their time of judgment. However, the lost of the final age are judged PRIOR to their being saved. They will experience wrath. But before they...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, As I have said, in this present age, Christ is ONLY saving the Elect. In the final age, Christ will resurrect the rest of mankind and judge them by the Law. The penalty of sin is death and is NOT burning in hell as you claim. Fire is a spirit word (John 6:63) which represents...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, That's right. When a person receives the Early Rain of the Spirit, they remain carnal, spiritually blind and unconverted. The churches are full of them. Because these believers are spiritually blind, Satan easily deceives them into following "another gospel" which mixes works with...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, You said: Not every person becomes a believer!!! Scripture contradicts your belief: Luke 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 5 Every valley...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, You asked: Does the unbeliever receive God's grace? Yes, we are all unbelievers when Christ comes to us to give us the Early Rain of the Spirit. With the Spirit, we are given a measure of faith and will then accept Jesus as Lord. Our confession of faith can happen no other way...
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    SALVATION: BY GRACE OR BY WORKS? A FALSE DICHOTOMY

    Dear Titus, You said: Grace is a free gift but grace is not unconditionally given. Gods grace is conditional, therefore Gods grace comes with terms. If grace is not unconditionally given, it is not free. You are mixing "works" with faith. This is the "another gospel" that Satan teaches...
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    How Many Times Have You Heard THIS???

    Dear Radio Waves, When a believer is converted, they will enter into the rest of Christ. They will no longer have to observe a day of rest each week as the Old Covenant of Law commands. The converted believer will now rest in Christ every day of the week. The Old Covenant of Law demands...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Dear Peterlag, Christ most certainly taught the New Covenant in the Gospels. Until you can "see" that truth, there is nothing I can say that can possibly help your overall understanding of Christ. This is a good time to end our discussion. Joe
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Dear Peterlag, The four Gospels contain mostly teachings concerning the New Covenant and the pathway the Elect will travel to salvation under that covenant. That pathway starts when Christ gives a person the Early Rain of the Spirit. But since Christ does not heal the person's spiritual...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Dear Peterlag, As I said, Christ teaches us by types, symbols and parables. The church is not literally a virgin bride as this world understands that concept. But in Christ's spiritual language, the church is the virgin Bride of Christ. The Nation of Israel has been cast into outer darkness...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Dear Peterlag, There is NO literal marriage to Christ. The term "Bride" is a spiritual symbol (a "spirit" word, John 6:63). When an Elect believer becomes the Bride of Christ, it means that they have been "born again" and have received the baptism of the Spirit. If the church is not the...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Dear Peterlag, The parable of the Ten Virgins is teaching the pathway to salvation the Elect will travel for salvation. The marriage is a symbol for the conversion of the Elect believer. Conversion consists of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the baptism of Fire. As each Elect person is...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Dear Peterlag, Just a quick comment. Water baptism in the name of Jesus is what should be performed AFTER Christ comes to an unbeliever and gives them the Early Rain of the Spirit. The Early Rain of the Spirit is not the baptism of the Spirit. Water baptism is a physical symbol which precedes...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS POST... So what else changes when a person receives the Baptism of the Spirit? When a person receives the Early Rain of the Spirit, they are given a "measure of faith" (Rom 12:3). Faith in Christ does not occur naturally within mankind. Faith must be given to us...
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    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Dear St.SteVen, I Cor 12:7-11 is teaching about the spiritual gifts that a new believer receives upon receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit. When a believer receives the Latter Rain of the Spirit (Baptism of the Spirit), they already have the gifts of the Spirit. So what changes when a...
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    The 1000 year Millennium from the Bible

    Dear Hobie, Scripture says that God only reveals Christ (who is Truth) to the Elect and to no one else. You are basing your understanding on what has been taught to you in the apostate church and not on what is taught in God's Word. The apostate church teaches that it is up to mankind to...
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    [Question]Genesis 17:8

    Dear Jim C., God's Word is written in Christ's spiritual language for the purpose of keeping the knowledge of God concealed from everyone but those who have been converted. Until a believer is converted, they will remain spiritually blind and will not be able to know Christ. In that spiritual...
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    [Question]Genesis 17:8

    Dear quietthinker, The pathway to salvation is a little complicated but once a person understands it, it's not hard to "see" in scripture. Have you ever wondered why Paul's conversion experience contains so many usual details? Those details are there to teach the pathway to salvation the Elect...