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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    I don't desire a third party app on my PC, and am very careful about what is and is not installed on it. I have 5 Terrabytes of precious data, and do not need any of it lost through negligence upon my part due to an unknown app. However, if you can please express the belief that you hold on...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    The belief you have expressed is WTS/JW theology. Therefore, would you mind me asking you some questions in regards that belief? Why do you believe that human beings will be alive on earth during the 1,000 years? What scriptures do you have that state this theological position? Please...
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    Prophetic Chart from beginning unto the ending, Prophetic studies

    Already told you about the 6th seal. Already in progress: Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Actually Daniel 12:2 is referring to the special resurrection, not the 2nd great resurrection of damnation. In John 5:29, there is the First Great resurrection of only the Righteous, at the beginning of the 1,000 years. There is also the Second Great resurrection of only the finally impenitent...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Barney, I am not saying that a 'part of the person survives' the Lake of Fire. They are annihilated, completely. Gone forever. What we were speaking about is the 'torment' leading up to that point in time that they cease to be in Revelation 20. All the finally impenitent who have ever lived...
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    Prophetic Chart from beginning unto the ending, Prophetic studies

    These may be helpful to those studying. Enjoy. The Final Events Study Guide (PDF) The Ten Commandments Study Guides (PDF) The Final Events Of Bible Prophecy Magazine (PDF) The Final Events Of Bible Prophecy Magazine – AFScan (PDF) The Rest Of Your Life – Sabbath Magazine – AFScan (PDF)...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Ok. :) These might be helpful to you and others: The Final Events Study Guide (PDF) The Ten Commandments Study Guides (PDF) The Final Events Of Bible Prophecy Magazine (PDF) The Final Events Of Bible Prophecy Magazine – AFScan (PDF) The Rest Of Your Life – Sabbath Magazine – AFScan (PDF)...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Got the reference: Mat_7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: But they simply redefine the word "destruction" to mean, "lives eternally with conscious torment". I have never heard of...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    I now understand your authority, and how you arrive at the "true meaning of scripture". It's man, either "you" or another who agrees with "you".
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Already addressed. The koine Greek of the text actually reads thus in the GNT TR: Revelation 20:10 GNT TR - "... εις τους αιωνας των αιωνων ..." Transliterated into English letters: "... [h]eis touS aiwnaS twn aiwnwn ..." [whereas "w" is transliterated Greek "o-mega", and "S" being a final...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Now that it is firmly established by the entire surrounding context and by prophecy and action of Jesus, that Luke 16 is indeed parable, do you want to study Luke 16's Rich man and Lazarus in detail by scripture and identify the symbolism that Jesus used and what it means? For instance, the 5...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    To those who teach that Luke 16 cannot be a parable because it uses a proper name, do not know their Bible [KJB], and moreso they make up their own rules for that which may be utilized in a parable, which are not found in scripture [KJB]: And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    The Rich Man and Lazarus of Luke 16, comes in a series of Parables after a small discourse to great multitudes really beginning in Luke 14:25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, Luke 14:25 ... and also in Luke 15:1-2, to tax collectors, sinners who...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Luke 16, a Parable, let's begin in Luke 14, and walk through .. In Luke 14:1: And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him. Luke 14:1 Whose house does the text say that Jesus went into to "eat bread" and on...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    I see that you love to quote "you" and not scripture as authority for a given point. However, as much as "you" think that "you" are an authority on said point, to me, "you" are not so an authority. The "outer darkness" in Matthew 8:12, 22:13, 25:30, is outside of the "light" of the "Kingdom of...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    The verses cited clearly show New Jerusalem descended to the very earth at the end time of the 1,000 years: Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Yes Barney Bright, I am not saying that "torment" exists in death for the person which died ('first death'). My reply was in regards the wicked resurrected in the second great resurrection, which takes place at the end of the 1,000 years, who then suffer in the lake of fire, unto the second death.
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    Explain please ...

    I wonder if a new nickname is in order from the media... something like, 'Slappy Pappy'? I can kind of see where the first priest, in the OP, learned it. I do not remember Jesus going around slapping people, especially children (in the head, no less). When Jesus was pressed by the throng, and...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    New Jerusalem, is a real tangible city, that is going to come down to this earth and sit in the place where the mount of Olives is presently, see Zechariah 14, Revelation 20-22. Then you say that the "lake of fire" is "parabolically"? Again, that is the Jesuit, Council of Trent teaching as...
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    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Told you already that Seventh-day Adventists teach the scriptural torment in hellfire, for its proper "season", after which they shall forever "pass away". Rev_20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till...