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Amen! Encourage eachother with these words. Well I feel encouraged.

It's tradition of man vs. what scripture originally intended.

Further proof of a pre-trib rapture can be found in 2 Thess. 2. Where it's stated that the Day of the Lord cannot come until the apostasy comes first. We used to read the word apostasy to mean a departure from the faith. In this context it may mean a departure from this world. The next verses...

So the question to ask is once this is implemented how close will we be to the mark? and what more will need to be done by the globalists before they achieve their actual mark?

Thank You Stranger for setting things straight.

Repeting a verse over and over again to distract from the verse being used out of context is misleading and it's what false teachers do. Please stop. The fact that this passage clearly refers to the Ammonites makes it look like you are purposely decieving.

Well I guess we will see someday how things pan out and then we'll know.

Let me be more clear. I was asking if you stated that the Bible was added to after it had been canonized.

That post was rather presumptuous sir. I don't know if I will be raptured before I die. Only Enoch was that special. However, I believe in a pre trib because it's biblical not because of some attitude. The argument you have against pre trib and that most usually have is conjecture and talk about...

Are you saying that time always tells the truth to imply that the early church had it wrong? Jesus said that in the last days there will be false teachings. Think about it.

No I am saying that everyone including Paul believed in an iminent rapture because the lie of a non pre trib rapture hadn't spread much by that time.

Actually some of the early church fathers taught a pre trib rapture including Irenaeus and Cyprian. Also, Forgive me if I read your post wrong, but are you saying that the Bible was added to post canon?

The early Christians were looking forward to a pre trib iminent rapture. That the rapture was iminent was the context of the letters Paul wrote to the churches such as Thesolanica and Corinthians.

So if someone threatens you as a Christian, be pacifist and have the honor of being a martyr by turning the other cheak. But if someone threatens your country, fight back like Israel did. That solves the dilemma.

Alison, my mom has watched horror films for a few years now. Now there is a demonic spirit manifested in her house. I feel it's presance whenever I visit and she has asked me to get rid of it. Horror films are not only sin but Satans tools to bring strongholds into your life which we must fight...

That's troubling. Why? don't you want to go to heaven one day? Would you rather be married to the world?

Yes

Yes but when Jesus got angry he said, "my fathers house shall be a house of prayer." he didn't say, "my fathers house shall be a house of prayer and politics."

but aren't those firstly moral issues? Jesus had something to say about moral issues but people were expecting him to do something like running for office. This is not why he came.

well? i'm all ears...