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  1. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    And when He does die, people still manage to get things wrong. I remember hearing what the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu said: Tutu: "My dead friend, when we say Jesus Christ ascended into heaven, you don't believe that He got a kind of ecclesiastical lift that took Him into the stratosphere..."...
  2. Phoneman777

    Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

    OK, but countries where HCQ is widely used to combat malaria saw the LEAST incidence of C2 - and many scientists absolutely disagree with your statement as to why that is. But, nevertheless, please don't have anything to do with these jabs.
  3. Phoneman777

    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    It couldn't have been said any better than you've stated it. It's a truth that indicts all of us. There's no excuse for us to indulge deliberate, known, presumptuous sin. If we're prayed up and studied up on Scripture and truly striving against sin and have the faith you speak of, then we'll...
  4. Phoneman777

    Preterism is Wrong

    I've asked them how it is that the most climactic event to have ever occurred on earth - the Second Coming - has gone unnoticed by eyewitnesses, historians, politicians, even the church which is told to "watch and pray" - although the Bible says this event is the greatest, brightest, loudest...
  5. Phoneman777

    What does the bible say happens when you die

    To answer that question, one need only ask "where is God's throne?" Because the Tree of Life is in the midst of Paradise and stands above the River of Life which flows out of the Throne of God.
  6. Phoneman777

    Preterism is Wrong

    The purpose of prophetic symbolism is to preserve the church from any indictment of insurrectism and swift annihilation all through the ages of declaring what the future holds and warning all to prepare. There's no need to refer to Christ's Second Coming in cryptic language, for the church has...
  7. Phoneman777

    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    An apple tree doesn't produce apples in order to be an apple tree - it's because it's an apple tree. An apple tree ain't an apple tree if it doesn't produce apples - a Christian ain't a Christian if he lives in sin.
  8. Phoneman777

    Preterism is Wrong

    What are some of the ways Preterists say the glorious, earth-shattering, ear-splitting return of Jesus has already happened? I've heard preachers say the loudest verse in the Bible is 1 Thessalonians 4:16 KJV.
  9. Phoneman777

    Preterism is Wrong

    Nope, it's definitely talking about a post-trib rapture. Preterists claim Jesus came back in the first century, so how do they account for verses 16-17?
  10. Phoneman777

    thanks man!

    thanks man!
  11. Phoneman777

    Preterism is Wrong

    What are some of the ways you know of Preterists account for the glorious, ear-splitting, earth-shattering, dead-raising return of 1 Thessalonians 4:16 KJV?
  12. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    I've know doubt you have zeal toward God - my concern is that you teach some errors that can be shown to be unBiblical. That's not only harsh, but violates the TOS here. We're not to call into question another's salvation nor criticize another's character and "attention needy" and "spiritual...
  13. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    Behold, you need to take responsibility for misrepresenting the Word of God and not childishly accuse others of wrongdoing. Jesus was not "tormented" by "being sinless" and for your own benefit as well as the rest of us, you should admit that.
  14. Phoneman777

    Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

    And my relative smoked unfiltered Chesterfields everyday until he died in his late 80s. What you and I have is called "anecdotal evidence" which ain't evidence at all.
  15. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    Sheesh, I correct your mistake and let you off with a warning and all you do is be a REPEAT OFFENDER? It was "torment" for Jesus to be everything you said EXCEPT "being sinless" - Jesus delighted in "being sinless" and did not find it "torment". Your statement is an attempt to subconsciously...
  16. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    I never said being nailed to a Cross wasn't torment, so let's dispense with the Strawman, OK? It was YOU who irresponsibly said "Jesus' torment was to be sinless..." which is wrong, and lest anyone be confirmed in the popular yet erroneous idea that living a sinless life is torment instead of...
  17. Phoneman777

    What does the bible say happens when you die

    No, he wasn't close at all. Paradise was, is, and always will be up, friend. We know this by comparing Scripture: In the midst of Paradise stands the Tree of Life (Revelation 2:7 KJV) which is rooted in both banks of the River of Life (Revelation 22:2 KJV) which flows from the Throne of God...
  18. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    BTW, I edited that post. And it's not restating what you said. You said Jesus was "tormented" by obedience and that death is limited only to the Body.
  19. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    "The Soul that sinneth, it shall die" and also "...shall save a Soul from death" says the Scriptures. Not just the Body dying, but the entire being which is the Soul comprised of the Body that returns to the dust and the Spirit that returns to God Who gave it. A soul exists as a consequence of...
  20. Phoneman777

    Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

    You never heard of "repurposed drugs"? They use them all the time to treat conditions. HCQ was solving it before you and the rest of your ilk began waging guerrilla warfare against it, telling us it - an extremely safe and effective drug used for decades - would harm people, as if it needed to...