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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Perfectly Expresses the cult of textualism. Can be debunked by a single verse. And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. (John 20:21) But...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I Have never said those words are not true, and I have agreed with them with you. I Am saying there is more to what Christ has to offer us, the riches of His Grace... All PLUS, He is not just our all, But our All IN ALL. It is known as progressive revelation, And it is scriptural, He gives us...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    From My perspective, it is you who are denying the Power thereof. Until you can see this You are hopelessly blind to it. You are limiting an eternal immortal God By confining him and all he has to offer us to Box of your own mental comprehension and Ability. You are mocking God. It reminds me...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Like I said: I Cannot make you see what you do not want to see. Oh and I have quoted plenty of passages to support my positions, You just ignore most of them. Willful blindness? If You cannot see the analogy of the harvest being used in scriptures to describe the church then you just plain...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I Cannot make you see what you do not want to see. Oh and I have quoted plenty of passages to support my positions, You just ignore most of them. Willful blindness?
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I Never denied that passage, I just said there is more he has to offer, and your missing out by not Hungering and thirsting for more of Jesus.
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    That is because you failed to stand corrected. You said no scripture supports the latter rain and i corrected you and gave you one and you continued to say there isn't one, even now you try and "explain it away" Anything but say "I am wrong" The hardest three words for you to say.
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    There you go again getting all offended instead of discussing the scriptures posted, and refuting scripture with Scripture. Remember, You being offended shows I am on target....
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I Suppose you could harvest the wheat of the field before the wheat is ripe, and fruitful but it would defeat the purpose of planting the seed in the first place. This is why Jesus used the analogy of the wheat harvest, and the early and latter rain to describe HIS timing and how His chiurch...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. (Ephesians 2:7) Do You believe he has more to give us than all we already have? Do You not want More of Jesus and More of the riches of His Grace, or are you content with...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    It is right there is James 5:7, It just takes a little bit of mental gymanstics to see it.... Or more correctly some eyesalve from God, You may need to go buy some!
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Did You miss James 5:7 which I posted? Cause you are now making a fool of yourself.
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    So I guess you stand corrected on the latter rain now because I showed you the verse on this? I Will grant you that no where in scripture does it say "second pentecost", But it is implied in the verse i quoted you on the latter rain, for we know the apostles understood pentecost to be the...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    No. I Am fundamentalist Baptist who believes in the Gifts of the Spirit..... Some would say I am an oxymoron in that respect. If there is any teacher that I follow, they are secondary to the word of God and the Holy Ghost who is my teacher. Of the men that i admire the most are A.W. Tozer, David...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    For the record, I have never once condoned any such movement in the charismatic circles of the church, In fact what I am showing is a latter rain that is an outpouring of the Discerning of Spirits not what we see in many of the so called "latter rain" movements which totally lack any discernment...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    You have taken this great promises from scripture and construed them to fit your theology of complacency and comfort so that they say " I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;" This is obvious in your denial of any moves of the Holy Ghost whatsoever in the church and...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    a point was made, not an accusation of guilt. This is how you read into comments.
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Ha, ha! About the latter rain. But I think you know what I am speaking of. You say you have all you need, and are in need of nothing more. I say There is a final outpouring of the Spirit coming. That is the latter rain, Much like Pentecost, and the Spirit falling on believers en masse, we will...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I Disagree with this. We may be in a time of silence prophetically but this does not negate Prophets now or their eventual rising. The two witnesses themselves are prophets and Prophesy, No where in scripture does it say the office of prophet ceased. The fact that we are seeing a rise in...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Very true, as Satan always mimics the things of God. But Just because Satan is promoting a false ecumenical movement does not mean we should not speak of the unity of the Spirit, In fact we should speak more so of what the true unity of the Spirit Looks like so we can thereby expose the false to...