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I agree that He purged our sins... I still have never seen anything that said that He paid for our sins.

Paul never asked anyone to pray for any sins he was struggling with. What had Paul not "apprehended"/ It was not holiness, "You are witnesses, and so is God, of how holy, righteous and blameless we were among you who believed." It was not Perfection, “Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be...

I agree, yet people insist that the Bible says that Jesus "paid for sin," but continue to refuse to show any verse that says this! If sins are paid for, then there is nothing to pardon.

Jesus purchased sin? I don't think that you can find that in any Bible!

The world of Gnosticism, even in the days of the Bible was diverse. Several "gnostic" sects ran concurrently. Yet one thing in common with them was that they viewed the physical world as defective, and the special knowledge that the "select" would have revealed to them is that we are actually...

Legalism and mans deeds are not the issue that differentiates what the Bible says is Atonement, and the man-made commercial theory you force on it.

Obviously, you have not read up enough on Gnostic beliefs. It would be best to see their separation of the Physical and Spiritual worlds. If you had received Gnosis, you would have known this.

It's favorite verse for Gnostics and Christians that apply Gnostic assumptions. The gist is, "Where do we not sin? In the Spirit! The Spirit inside of the believer cannot sin! We are white as snow in Jesus"

Most here believe that God is not merciful, but demands a retribution payment. Goes God have mercy? Does He withhold what we deserve? Or, Does He demand His pound of flesh and only accepts payment? If it's "paid" then there is nothing left to forgive. It cannot be both.

To: Appease is heathen atonement, throwing the virgin into the Volcano to appease God.

Typical evasion of your argument that the Atonement pays for sins. Atonement has never been in debate, only Payment has.

Yet so many people believe that they will be Judged on their "faith," even their dead faith! Will God be judging us according to our faith? The Bible is clear on this issue without exception. Jesus said, "Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear...

Then you have no hope! No sin was ever paid for! The Bible never says that! Why would you hang your hope on a theory that you cannot find stated in Scripture? You say, "All of you sins were future sins when Christ died..." The truth is, your future sins did not exist! You reveal what you are...

I wonder what the Bible says?

When you cannot defeat the Bible and what God says, and choose to attack anyone that would believe it, it gets personal. Strange...

When the discussion ceases to be what God says, and becomes ad hominem, it is never a search for truth.

I'm not the one stuck on "achieving" states of grace as those who oppose holiness on the Board do! Does being Born-Again make one a qualified teacher? How we live and what we teach matters according to Scripture; "Be not many [of you] teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive...

I know, I know... when the Bible says, "he who sins is of the devil" actually was supposed to say, "he who sins is a Christian"! Let's correct God! "No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man: and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able...

There is no reason to chase red herrings instead of believing what God says. This is where the problem starts, using your experience to determine what you will accept from Scripture. If you do not like what God says, your argument is with Him, not anybody else. If you cannot believe God on the...

It is addressing sanctification. It is addressed to believers. The New Testament is replete with exhortations for believers to go on to perfection, that the will of God is our sanctification, that without holiness no one shall see the Lord. The Early Church was Jewish, and as the Gospel was...