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  1. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    High-sounding platitudes - we hear them constantly. Where once was powerfully preached and gladly heard echoed a plain "thus saith the Lord" is now filled with a cacophony of shallow religious colloquialisms and sound bites...and Christians of today's largely backslidden church "love to have it...
  2. Phoneman777

    Why The "Many" in Matthew 24:12 Are Saints Which Will Wind Up Lost

    Amen, we must fall in love with Jesus and allow Him to sit upon the throne of our heart if we are to be saved ;)
  3. Phoneman777

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Christ lumped in a lot of events in a short passage. Things which appear to follow immediately after other things only do so apparently because of the testimony of other verses. Where does the coming period of total darkness of an emptied destroyed silent Earth fit into a scemlnario where...
  4. Phoneman777

    Here's some data on John 10:33

    I get it. I prefer to examine one verse at at time. Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I was", right? NO!!! He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." And then they picked up stones to stone Him, right? Why? Because they understood fully what seems to be lost on you, friend: that He was saying He...
  5. Phoneman777

    Why The "Many" in Matthew 24:12 Are Saints Which Will Wind Up Lost

    yes, but that grace is only proffered to those who "endure to the end" and are "saved" which the saints of verse 12 won't be able to do because they allowed widespread iniquity to turn their agape cold and dead, leaving them lost.
  6. Phoneman777

    Why The "Many" in Matthew 24:12 Are Saints Which Will Wind Up Lost

    When Jesus comes as a thief in the night, 2 Peter 3:10 KJV says the Earth is going to basically implode...so there won't be 7 more seconds, let alone 7 more years of tribulation.
  7. Phoneman777

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I wrote about that in a recent post. The fire falls down and burns up the wicked after the 1,000 years...when they are resurrected, judged, and take the divine lava shower.
  8. Phoneman777

    Why The "Many" in Matthew 24:12 Are Saints Which Will Wind Up Lost

    How does any of that make sense? It plainly says the "agape" of the saints turns cold and dead, leaving them in a more wretched spiritual condition than the merely "lukewarm" saints Jesus will reject and spit out of His mouth? Do you believe that "cold" is still "gold", the "agape" Jesus told...
  9. Phoneman777

    Here's some data on John 10:33

    So, when the Father told the Son, "Thy throne, O God is forever and ever", the Father was mistaken? When Isaiah called Jesus "the everlasting Father", Isaiah was mistaken? When Jesus made Himself equal with the Father, saying "Before Abraham was, I AM?" He was mistaken? When Thoman said to...
  10. Phoneman777

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You realize the clouds ain't that high, right? The Earth ain't empty if Jesus and the saints are hovering in the clouds watching everything go up in smoke...and if Jesus is there outshining the Sun "with the brightness of His coming", when does Jeremiah's prophecy that the "heavens shall be...
  11. Phoneman777

    Why The "Many" in Matthew 24:12 Are Saints Which Will Wind Up Lost

    Nah, that'd be you. Do you understand that "separate us from the love of God" is all together different from "separate us from the presence of God" which is a favorite, false, unconscious rendering by the OSAS crowd? Of course God will never stop loving us - His love is unconditional...
  12. Phoneman777

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Jeremiah 4:23-26 KJV -A CLEARLY AN APOCALYPTIC MESSAGE of the Second Coming. Can you finally see this coming period of a darkened, desolate, empty, deserted, uninhabited, deathly silent Earth can ONLY fit in berween the Second Coming of Jesus and the Resurrection of the Damned 1,000 years later?
  13. Phoneman777

    Why The "Many" in Matthew 24:12 Are Saints Which Will Wind Up Lost

    Not according to Matthew 24:12 KJV. Those elect "many" who allowed widespread iniquity to turn their agape cold and dead leaving them unable to endure to the end and be saved will wind up lost and go to hell. Your "the saints will persevere" response has no accompanying arguments to show why my...
  14. Phoneman777

    Here's some data on John 10:33

    What Bible are you reading? (100% Man) "There is one God and one Mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus." (100% God) "For if ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins." "Before Abraham was, I AM". "But unto the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever."
  15. Phoneman777

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You're failing to take into account the whole testimony of Scripture, so please allow me to: The "few men left" are the resurrected Just who are "caught up" and go back to "His father's house", as in the case of all Hebrew bridegrooms when they come to collect their brides. How do we know...
  16. Phoneman777

    Here's some data on John 10:33

    You do realize Jesus was 100% man and 100% God, right? "The Lord is my shepherd". Jesus is the "Good Shepherd". John 11:16 KJV says there's only ONE Shepherd. "The Lord is my Rock". "That Rock was Christ." Psalms 62: 6 KJV says "Thou ONLY art the Rock". "The Lord is my Judge." "We must all...
  17. Phoneman777

    Here's some data on John 10:33

    What else could He mean in John 10:33 KJV except to say He was equal with God, referring to His Divine Nature being as eternal, as authoritative, as omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipotent as His Father God? He laid aside His Divine Nature and became human to (1) show us the true Father, which...
  18. Phoneman777

    Here's some data on John 10:33

    Excellent question
  19. Phoneman777

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes, it's best to simply accept what is plainly written in Scripture: In Revelation 20, when verse 5 says "the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished" right after verse 4 speaks of the Resurrection of the Just...we immediately know verse 5 is referring to the...
  20. Phoneman777

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Like I said: your unBiblical scenario has constant life and activity on Earth from Adam to eternity: - no room for the coming period of an "utterly emptied" Earth - empty, because there is "no man" - "no man" because the wicked were all burned up and the righteous were caught up - and "all the...