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  1. Phoneman777

    OSAS Can Sin all you Want

    That's a nice bit of human reasoning you got going there. Suffice it to say, God's love is unconditional, but from Biblical cover to cover salvation is taught to be absolutely conditional: on condition that we repent. That's why 1 John 2:3-4 KJV says those who claim to be saved but keep sinning...
  2. Phoneman777

    The 100% of the Time Excuse for Sinning Now

    The only "100% excuse for sinning against God" I've ever heard of is the OSAS License to Sin. According to the OSAS crowd, if you got one in your pocket, you can escape the penalty for doing the exact same thing for which an unlicensed will suffer punishment.
  3. Phoneman777

    Is Sunday the "New Covenant Sabbath"?

    Many today foolishly argue that Christians aren't obligated to keep the Ten Commandments but refuse to say we may disregard even one of them. A blind man can see both claims can't simultaneously be true any more than a woman can be both pregnant and not pregnant at the same time. This OP is not...
  4. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I'll concede that point. Suffice it to say, obedience or rebellion is doesn't make or break the salvation deal - it's our inward choice we make which does that, and that choice is shown by the obedience or rebellion that follows. I"ve been totally clear that salvation is by grace through faith...
  5. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Because the "Sabbath was made for MAN" not JEW. The Ten Commandments are part of the NC -- unless you can point to the one we're free to disobey.
  6. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    How about demonstrating our forever rest by kicking back on Sabbath like Hebrews 4:9 KJV says we're supposed to do? ;) Does it make sense that the Sabbath rest goes back to Eden and will be kept for all eternity, but for some reason, God decided the couple thousand years between the first and...
  7. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Actually, the First Commandment produces giving - because if God is our God, what He imparts to us, we impart to others - we can't give away what we don't have to start with.
  8. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Does a person really love God if they blaspheme His name, make idols to worship, or even put other gods before Him? Of course not. But, disregarding the Sabbath somehow proves our love for Him, right? Can I say I love my neighbor if I steal from him or run around with his wife? You see, if we...
  9. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Then why did God have to go into so much detail, as if we're stupid sheep? Because we are: ;) "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked". "There is a way that seemeth right to a man, but the ends thereof are the ways of death". That's why I shared those verses with you...
  10. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes, if you keep the Spirit of the law, you automatically keep the letter. It seems to me: The letter of the law against stealing refers to the act of theft, while the spirit of the law refers to entertaining thoughts of doing it. If we're keep the Spirit of "thou shalt not steal", by default...
  11. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Please don't shift the conversation from the weekly Sabbath as a New Covenant commandment once written on stone but now written on the heart (2 Corinthians 3:1-3 KJV; Hebrews 8:8-10 KJV) ---- to a new topic about what we must do to be saved, OK? I've already made it clear the Just Man who falls...
  12. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    It is you who refuses to understand what is plain to see: the Sabbath was created in Eden as a memorial to Creation and remains such for all time as we observe it throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity......... while the yearly Feast Day sabbaths which pointed to Jesus were nailed to the...
  13. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    That's too general a characterization. It doesn't address specifics. What's it mean to "trust" Christ? Solomon says "Trust in the Lord...in all thy ways submit to Him." Biblical "trust" demands that we "submit" to His commandments and obey them, right? What's it mean to "love" Christ? Jesus...
  14. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Why is there confusion about how to keep God's commandments? Just keep them, but keep the "SPIRIT" of them, which by default means you'll be keeping the letter of them. The Jews thought the letter alone was enough, but the Spirit of them is what God desires - it's not enough to refrain from...
  15. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Exactly. If you're not convicted of truth, you're not held accountable for that truth. The danger lies when we come under Holy Spirit conviction but allow our prejudice to rebel against it, then we are most certainly in eternal trouble, not because we refuse to act, but because we're evicted...
  16. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    He didn't say "all these things must come to pass in 70 A.D." - He said they must come to pass so don't be troubled, right?
  17. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Easiest question to answer: Obedience to the law is not a yoke of bondage. Obedience to the law for the purpose of obtaining salvation is a yoke of bondage. There are three kinds of Christians: 1) the mature, learned, well adjusted adult Christian who knows this to be Biblically true 2) the...
  18. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The Peshitta says exactly that, according to Lamsa ;)
  19. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Not the hyper-grace brand you teach with its OSAS License to Sin. You can't get any more leftist than that. Don't you get tired of the lies you spew? SDAs don't preach works-based anything, but the whole Gospel, which is salvation by grace through faith alone and the evidence for saving faith...
  20. Phoneman777

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Never had a prob with any site except the leftist mods on CC, and as far as I'm concerned they and the leftist haters they protect can embrace the destiny that is for all who refuse to love the truth. The problem with liberal Christians like you is that you think James said the law is a window...