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The focus is abstaining from giving into lust and having self-control. ( Concupiscence in the Bible always refers to passionate desire for something that God has forbidden.) What I find interesting here is that in secular society, our hormones are so often spoken of as being something we have no...

Well, that's not my definition of sodomy, nor the Biblical one, which had to do with males raping males.. but more to the point, where is oral sex prohibited within marriage? Where does it say in the Bible that kissing is only allowed in certain areas of the body? I know Augustine and others...

I would agree. I still don't understand why people have a problem with certain kinds of kissing for a married couple, though. I can not find anywhere that the Word prohibits kissing below the waist in the marriage bed. If there's such a verse I'm interested in hearing it.

6O my God, my soul despairs within me. Therefore I remember You from the land of Jordan and the peaks of Hermon—even from Mount Mizar. 7Deep calls to deep in the roar of Your waterfalls; all Your breakers and waves have rolled over me.

The attorney general saying it's the left isn't evidence? I suppose you have Intel he doesn't? The protestors aren't chanting Trump slogans, they are painting antifa graffiti. BLM leaders are admitted marxists. But you want me to believe that the people burning Bibles and chanting about George...

I never even mentioned sodomy? And the passages I quoted strongly imply something oral going on...

There have been a couple incidents with extreme right wing people, and lots of prolonged, ongoing violence from the left. Blaming the riots on the right is a joke. The people that are causing the riots are Biden voters overwhelmingly. It's the left burning pig heads with police hats on them and...

Lol, another antifa denier. These days it's like being an atheist. The evidence is everywhere, so you just ignore it.

You are probably much more holy than the senior couples who barely tolerate each other and never touch. I hope we are still frisky at 60 because it's not that far away!

Sexuality in marriage isn't " dirty" first off. Of course these are delightful to the soul, sexuality in marriage is supposed to be a spiritual experience. Anyway, you can't apply that reasoning to this verse: Your breasts are perfect; they are twin deer feeding among lilies. 6 I will...

I didn't say that the translation says " acting upon." I'm just saying the verses I posted sure sounds like oral sex to me.

I'm trying not to be too explicit here. I think you know what " acting upon" means in this context.

Okay so it's very poetic, but since you asked for it and since it is scripture: Song 2:3 (The wife is acting upon her husband) “Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest, so is my beloved among the young men. In his shade I took great delight and sat down, and his fruit was sweet to my...

Yes, but the question seems to be what the Lord approves of in marriage. If you read song of Solomon, and understand what the original language actually said, I'm pretty sure there's a reference to oral sex and, well, other things.

Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 1st Corinthians 7:5 I bet you are not married.

Lol, says the Bible nowhere.

Convoluted nonsense. I can make up similar symbolism and make any part of the Bible say things it never said.

They must be polling the rioters.

Hmm... But does anyone fully understand how God saves us? We all see through the glass darkly.

I think this: people make salvation into a formula. One formula is: trust Jesus and be saved for ever. Another is: confess sin each time you are aware of it to remain saved. There's other formulas out there, like: you must never sin or you will lose your initial salvation. But salvation isn't a...