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  1. Harvest 1874

    The Great Day of Atonement, Part 7

    All the trials and difficulties which the Master underwent in laying down of his life preceded him as a sweet incense, a precious perfume, beyond the veil, into the Most Holy, as shown in the type.” (R 5712) Many students of God’s Word have erroneously assumed that the Apostle’s statement found...
  2. Harvest 1874

    Earth, Created to stand forever

    Sorry but this text taken from Revelation is highly symbolic and it is evident that you are misinterpreting it.
  3. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    It was not meant as a insult my friend if you received it as such, my apologies. We are much more alike than you can imagine I am a Bible Student (what many Jehovah's Witnesses refer to as the "evil slave class"), so we're accustom to similar remarks (persecutions as you like to call them)...
  4. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    In respects to Mr. Slick we disagree, We have no definite information respecting the fallen angels, except where the Apostle says, "Know ye not that ye shall judge angels?" This word "judge" as used in the Scriptures represents a trial. The inference, then, is that if they are to have a further...
  5. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    Its OK my brother no harm, I understand a quick reply does not suffice for evidence of our position thus I will attempt to explain in a forthcoming post.
  6. Harvest 1874

    Earth, Created to stand forever

    That is basically what we were implying, nor were we in any way inferring that the church this side of the vail can physically see him either, their perception of his Greek: parousia (presence) is likewise through the eyes of their understanding, being enlightened through the scriptures. The...
  7. Harvest 1874

    Earth, Created to stand forever

    The resurrected saints are spirit beings, can you see spirit beings? If you can then you must be off your meds again.
  8. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    Now you're starting to sound like a Jehovah's Witness as they don't believe Adam will be saved either, unfortunately this is not so, if Adam is not saved then neither are you, I or the rest of mankind. As for the fallen spirits they don't require a Savior as does mankind because they were not...
  9. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    First of all I don't know of any Universalist who believe that all the fallen spirits are to be saved. Universalist only believe that God will save all mankind. Secondly, we did not suggest that all the fallen spirits might be shown mercy, we said such as have realized their error and repented...
  10. Harvest 1874

    Earth, Created to stand forever

    Actually it is, if you take the time to thoroughly examine the facts.
  11. Harvest 1874

    Earth, Created to stand forever

    You have the right idea my friend, though we would say the world will see him (not by physical sight, but by the eyes of their understanding) when the judgements are in the earth, that is when the great time of trouble erupts and the present order of things is being dissolved before their eyes.
  12. Harvest 1874

    Earth, Created to stand forever

    That is not what we are saying at all, what we mean when we say that God is the God of nature is that he is the author of nature, he is the one who established the rules of nature, there's no implication here as you suggest that that he is a part of creation, he is not subject to nature. Is the...
  13. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    It is not directly stated, but we can imagine that if the Lord is merciful with us who have gone astray, that he might exercise that same mercy with regards to such of the fallen spirits who have realized their error have repented.
  14. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    In response to points 2 and 4 we'll just have to agree to disagree, as for point 3 you lost me, I'm not sure at all what you're saying; I believe part of your difficulty is that your perception is clouded by your Trinitarian bias. In your first sentence you state: Jesus is not a "spirit being"...
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    Earth, Created to stand forever

    Sometimes people forget who the God of nature is.
  16. Harvest 1874

    The Great Day of Atonement, Part 6

    “But while Jesus, as a "new creature," was thus within the "Holy," enjoying the light of the golden candlestick, fed by the bread of truth, and offering acceptable incense to Jehovah, let us look out into the "Court," and yet farther out, beyond the "Camp," and see another work progressing...
  17. Harvest 1874

    The Great Day of Atonement, Part 5

    “Then he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from the altar before the LORD, with his hands full of sweet incense beaten fine, and bring it inside the veil.” (Lev 16:12) “Looking through the type to the antitype, (that is comparing the typical ceremony to the reality) let us now...
  18. Harvest 1874

    The Great Day of Atonement, Part 4

    “And Aaron (representing our Lord) shall bring the goat upon which the LORD’s lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.” (Lev 16:9) “The Lord’s goat (the one for whom the LORD’s lot fell) represented the entire ‘Little Flock’ of the Lord’s faithful followers. They are all alike; they all come...
  19. Harvest 1874

    The thief on the cross !?

    You state: I actually did take the time to read it, but the "...have (had) the ability" part was a little confusing to me. Understood, I was simply implying that they have the ability, but not at the present time. You state: Demonic possession and demonic deception are two different things -...