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  1. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    This is in response to APAK’s question: What’s your definition of mortal/immortal all about? Note, He’s expressed no interest in the subject, but perhaps someone else may proffer from it, so I’ll post it anyways. In Reply, we simply stated this so that we might distinguish the difference...
  2. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I have "inner dialogue" all the the time, I talk to myself all the time, of course I'm the only one who will listen mind you.
  3. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    So you're one of those who hears voices in your head, right?
  4. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Was our Lord a created being? Come let us reason together. “For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten you”?” (Heb 1:5) (Should read – today you have become my first born son, since it is referring to His resurrection birth as a new creature.) Our...
  5. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I speak as a Bible Student, and those of like precious faith, We being many members are one in Christ. And no there's no team of writers if there were I wouldn't have fallen so far behind in the discussion. As for my subsequent post concerning the difference between mortal and immortal I still...
  6. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I haven't forgotten you, I will get to you in time, I've been busy with work lately and haven't had time to catch up on all the post, I can see I'm way behind in the discussion, however this thread has already been "hijacked" so if you want to discuss the Trinity I would suggest starting another...
  7. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Sorry it was late and I neglected to add the source for the quote, it was taken from “Studies in the Scriptures” by C.T. Russell, Vol 2 Page 273, 274 I will post a link as soon as I locate it.
  8. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    I’m pretty sure that when the scriptures said that we are to grow in the “knowledge” of our Lord Jesus this implied more than just a personal growth or relationship with the Lord, it includes the study of his word. “Whosoever will do the will of My Father which is in heaven shall know of my...
  9. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    This is true, but the Holy Spirit speaks to us through the written word, the scriptures, not as some poor deluded souls are fond of believing in our heads. If you’re hearing voices in your head I would advise seeking medical attention. Of course if you’re dabbling in séances, witch-craft and the...
  10. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Continued from previous post addressed to APAK VERSE 36 “Nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.” Here is where your difficulty comes in you erroneously assume that when the Lord said they would be equal to the angels that...
  11. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Sorry for the delay, work has kept me busy of late. We should now like to address your reply to our statement that nowhere in scriptures is it stated that angels are immortal, nor that mankind restored will be immortal." You state: I beg to differ...read your Bible. For starters here are these...
  12. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    If you believe the Trinity doctrine to be true, then supply your scriptural evidence. Who's arguing about the length of the punishment we know that those deemed unworthy of life will suffer "eternal punishment" suffer everlasting death, that's not the issue here, what we're talking about is...
  13. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    First of all I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness nor have I ever been, so let’s get that out of the way. Now you state: Your claim that He was created is a complete denial of His being begotten. Scripture describes Jesus as being the "first-born" of all creation. This very text you quote implies that...
  14. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    The false doctrine of the Trinity The false doctrine of eternal torment as the wages of sin. The false doctrine of the immortality of the soul. These three doctrines are in complete opposition to the doctrine of the ransom.
  15. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Nowhere in Scripture is it stated that angels are immortal, nor that mankind restored will be immortal. While, on the contrary, it is a quality which is ascribed only to the DIVINE NATURE—to Jehovah (1 Tim 6:16; 1:17), to Jesus in his present highly exalted condition, and to the Church, the...
  16. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    We accept Christ as our personal Savior, and that he died not only for the Christian, but for the whole world. (1 Tim 2:5, 6; 4:10; John 3:16) We accept the Bible as the inspired Word of God and study it in its entirety - seeking the harmony of the complete Scriptural testimony. (2 Tim 3:16...
  17. Harvest 1874

    The Ransom, Part 2

    Continued from previous post. “Now the free gift (justification to life) is not like the offense. For if through the offense of one (man, Adam) many be dead (under condemnation to death), much more the grace of God (the gracious plan of salvation), and the gift by grace, which is by one man...
  18. Harvest 1874

    The Ransom, Part 1

    “It was necessary [in accordance with God’s will] that man [should] learn obedience—not only to obey, but the importance of obedience. Man must obey not just because he is told to, but also because he WANTS to. This makes him free—the desire to comply rather than the constraints to comply. God...
  19. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    The scriptures state that we are to grow BOTH in the graces (the fruits of the spirit) AND in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. The two go hand and hand it is impossible to grow in the graces without a corresponding growth in knowledge, and of course vice versa. This is why we have some...
  20. Harvest 1874

    What are we really dealing with here?

    Just because one resides within the system (the apostate church) does not mean they are not saved. All men have been (past tense) saved from the original curse (Adamic sin), which was brought upon us by father Adam, this was paid by Christ by means of the ransom sacrifice, this of course does...
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