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So, of which of the two options is the papacy guilty? An organization which turns a blind eye to the many "papal heretics" in her midst who write contrary to what the papacy truly believes... ...or an organization which totally agrees with these "papal heretics"?

Nah, I just like to consider myself in good company with the likes of: John Wesley Charles Wesley Ulrich Zwingli John Hus William Tyndale Charles Spurgeon Miles Coverdale Martin Luther John Wycliffe Hugh Latimer Nicholas Ridley Thomas Cramner Ian Paisley John Foxe Alexander Hislop King James...

I don't, I just believe that "no prophecy of the Scripture is of a private interpretation", and ESPECIALLY "of a papal interpretation". Anyone who's waiting for a "Left Behind" Antichrist scenario is just plain drinking the Jesuit Koolaid compliments of Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera, who...

CL, the SDA church was preaching the soon return of Jesus for DECADES before everyone else finally gave up their grand designs of a "post 1,000 years of peace Second Coming" and joined us. During WWII, the Christian world was all but certain Jesus was about to come with "Hitler the Antichrist"...

Guess what took place every day at the "Evenings and Mornings" and to which the entire collection of Daniel 8 symbolism points? The Sacrifice...in the sanctuary. God is trying to draw our attention to the sanctuary for understanding of the prophecy. Whether "evenings and mornings", or "day"...

I didn't say the BLB didn't have limitations. I could prove the same thing with a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance with OT/NT Lexicons. What matters is the fact that whenever the passage is dealing specifically with the 2,300 Days portion of the prophecy, the English word "vision" is from...

You mean chapter 8 that says the vision is for "the time of the end"? :)

Asp, I'm sorry but the burden of proof is upon papists to defend their position that -- allegedly -- a bunch of "papist heretics" have been running around writing things like "thou (pope) art another God on Earth" and "Our Lord God the Pope" for centuries against the wishes of papal authority...

Really? 8 times the book of Daniel mentions "the time of the end" - all within the context of last days when "many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall increase" and in which will arise the great climax of the battle between good and evil.......and yet you're going to insist that Daniel 8's...

OK, please slow down and follow this: Question: Did Gabriel show up to discuss a "vision" in chapter 9? Answer: "...wherefore, understand the matter and consider the vision". Question: What is the most recent vision that Daniel had recieved? Answer: Daniel 8 Question: Was Daniel the recipient...

Daniel 8:17 "So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end [shall be] the vision."

Is that why Gabriel showed up a few years later to reveal more about the vision of chapter 8...the only vision that Gabriel could have been referring to, right? Seeing that there's not another revelation given to Daniel about future events from the time he passed out in chapter 8 until the time...

Yes, that's true :) but prophetic symbolism tells us that God sometimes makes "each day for a year". And the way to make the 2,300 Days pertain to "the time of the end" is to make them "each day for a year". If they expired with your Jewish insurrection theory, what possibly could they have to...

One of the first lessons in law school is "never ask a question to which you don't already know the answer" and it seems the first lesson in becoming a papist is "dodge any question for which you don't know the answer". I asked if you could provide documentation of the papacy putting to death...

I'll just leave this here: 8:27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick [certain] days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood [it].

Genesis is not future prophetic revelation, it is a historical account. However, Daniel and Revelation are prophetic revelations of the future and incorporate prophetic symbolism: horns, heads, seas, winds...and the "day/year" principle that is a well established fact of Scripture.

We can safely infer that by the fact that if Daniel understood that the Temple would lie in ruins for only another 6 years or so, the most that would have done was probably given him a bad case of diarrhea...the guy passed out and woke up in the ICU and after he was discharged, he went up and...

God moves in His own time. For around 30 years, whenever Abraham met someone new and introduced himself as "father of many nations" ------- which was met inevitably by the same question every single time, "How many children do you have?"......he had to answer, "Well, none as of yet, but..."

What do you mean, "sources"? Every time we list a source, you, Dead Bread, and other papist sympathizers here say, "oh, that guy is just spouting his opinion" or "that guy was just being poetic" or "that is not an official church position" or "that guy added to what was in the original...

None of what you said changes the fact that when the Daniel chapter 8 passage is dealing with the entire "vision" it uses both "chazown" and "mareh", but when dealing with only the 2,300 Days portion of the prophecy, it uses "mareh"...the very same word that Gabriel uses to describe what...