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  1. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    I'm glad we can agree on that. Now, why is it that the catholic church went to great lengths to put to death "heretics" but for some reason has tolerated all these "papal heretics" writing "heretical" statements about the popes and the papacy all these centuries? How many of these "heretic"...
  2. Phoneman777

    What Do The Book of Daniel DECEIVERS Present?!?

    What Bobbi Jo isn't telling us is that after hearing "unto two thousand three hundred days, then shall the Sanctuary be cleansed", Daniel passed out and woke up in ICU totally freaked because he'd obviously heard from the preaching of Jeremiah years before that the captivity was only going to be...
  3. Phoneman777

    Jesus' Crucifixion and Death, and Burial, were on consecutive days

    I've read them. They are totally subjective arguments. Meanwhile, have you been reading mine? Because you don't seem to have anything to offer by way of refutation regarding what Hebrews 4:9-10 plainly says about how the Christian who is resting in Christ will evidence that inward rest by...
  4. Phoneman777

    What Do The Book of Daniel DECEIVERS Present?!?

    Why would Daniel be searching for the meaning of or need to be granted wisdom and understanding regarding Jeremiah's prophecy? Daniel knew the meaning plainly: that they'd spend 70 years in captivity "until the land enjoyed her sabbaths." No, his confusion was about the end of chapter 8 which...
  5. Phoneman777

    What Do The Book of Daniel DECEIVERS Present?!?

    Bobbi Jo, Daniel knew what the sea represented, and he knew what the Ram, Goat, 4 Horns, Winds of heaven, etc., represented because the angel told him. The only thing that confused him and so disturbed him that he totally freaked out and became obsessed with discovering the meaning was the...
  6. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    Are you interested in a study into Historicism?
  7. Phoneman777

    What Do The Book of Daniel DECEIVERS Present?!?

    I like the online "Blue Letter Bible" where you can look up the chapter and then click on "Tools" that appears to the left of each verse and it will show the words in the original. Whenever you see the Hebrew "mareh" it is always talking about the 2,300 Days in the context of such phrases like...
  8. Phoneman777

    What Do The Book of Daniel DECEIVERS Present?!?

    BTW, the unfolding of the 2,300 Days cannot stretch forth unto the end of time, not in B.C., because the prophecy says it would. It says the 2,300 Days was to be "shut up" until the time of the end, and that's when the understanding of it was fully known. It seems Daniel's persistence to know...
  9. Phoneman777

    What Do The Book of Daniel DECEIVERS Present?!?

    That is correct. And "mareh" is used to refer to the 2,300 Days portion of Daniel 8, while "Chazown" is not used to refer to it. So, when the angel tells Daniel to consider the "mareh" - and also taking into consideration that the only part of the vision that confused Daniel was the 2,300 - we...
  10. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    My dear sister, Mardi Gras is a catholic holiday. In paganism, Tammuz (mentioned in Ezekiel) dies and his mother goes searching for him for forty days, during which time the people were to fast and afflict themselves while she was gone searching the underworld, only for her to return afterward...
  11. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    Easy on the venom, Asp, I've described no such thing. What other organization on Earth has existed since 538 A.D. as an institution of corruption so much so that 16th century calls to "drain the papal swamp" were so opposed by the papacy that the saints couldn't take it anymore and broke away...
  12. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    Down here we have "Mardi Gras" which means "Fat Tuesday" where on the day before you go to catholic church on "Ash Wednesday" to show God how holy you are, you get to wrap up a weeks long sin-binge where indulgence of every conceivable lust, be it sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll, whatever is...
  13. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    I'm acquainted with the ECF's writings somewhat, because as another dear sister in Christ in this forum has pointed out, the writings of the ECFs are not inspired, though they offer much light on church history. I'm especially impressed with Polycarp's devotion to God and his bravery for...
  14. Phoneman777

    Jesus' Crucifixion and Death, and Burial, were on consecutive days

    I agree that motive is the key. Love for God. Now, what about motive for refusing to obey His commandments?
  15. Phoneman777

    Jesus' Crucifixion and Death, and Burial, were on consecutive days

    I'm going to break it down for you so simply: "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God ("rest" - Gr. "Sabbatismos", not "Kataposis" which is the Gr. in the previous 8 verses, and is a reference to the weekly Sabbath) "...for he that hath entered into His rest (an obvious...
  16. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    Dead Bread, the facts point to the one or the other of two conclusions: 1) Your church has for centuries been overrun by catholic "heretics" in positions of authority whose job it is to speak for the papacy, but with uncontrollable tendencies to write "heretical" claims about the pope, catholic...
  17. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    I've already directed you to one of the most authoritative sources on papist abuse, ex-papal Psychologist Richard Sipe, one who is in a position to speak authoritatively on the issue moreso than most - who says that six percent of all priests have acted out sexually with minors. You can't...
  18. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    What do you mean by "condemnation"? Because it can mean "to denounce beliefs or actions" or "judge another as eternally lost". There's a diff.
  19. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    It will be easier to follow the lineage from Jesus' day to ours, but you can read it from the bottom back up to the top afterward: The apostolic Church kept God's commandments and had the testimony of Jesus (the Spirit of Prophecy) and the faith of Jesus. This Church was persecuted by Pagan...
  20. Phoneman777

    The Church The Papacy Says You Should Join

    I've got news for you...any man who claims such blasphemous claims as do your popes about having "one consistory" with God and equal to Him in power, authority, privilege, etc., are worse than false prophets...they are first lieutenants in the army of Lucifer.