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Again, when I said "four" I meant "four kingdoms, each under it's respective king" which is altogether different from the last kingdom - though it is called a "kingdom", the further description of it reveals that it's really a plurality of individual kingdoms which will confederate as such for...

I didn't bother to read the above, because there's no need for further examination of what the papacy has done: the Bible says the "Little Horn" Antichrist "would think to change times and laws" which was fulfilled by the papacy when they (thought to) change God's Ten Commandments by erasing the...

You keep repeating the same verse which conveys Jesus' tenderness toward His mother and expecting it to become words of impatience or irritation. Not going to happen :)

My point in saying "four" is to differentiate between the first four and the last one: The first four kingdoms are UNITED kingdoms - "...thou (singular) art this head of gold." They represent the kings (and their respective kingdoms) of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. The last kingdom...

"Clever girl" (from J.P.) LOL

Question: Why are you holding a turtle thing? LOL

Excellent! Yes, Rome was known as the "city on Seven Hills" and for us to deny that John's apocalyptic reference is of the papacy is just an example of stubborn refusal to let go of Jesuit Futurism. It's like when they refuse to accept the 10 horns that stood when the dust of the fallen Roman...

C'mon, please be specific about what's "falsely" said about the papacy. And please remember the criticism is against the teachings, not the individuals.

Nah, Brakelite is da man...

Please don't lecture me on the 9th commandment when papists changed the 4th from Sabbath to Sunday, ripped out the 2nd which condemns the images which fill papal churches, and tore the 10th into two in order to make up the difference.

Hey, Copperhead, thanks for your two cents :) The only prob with the "spatial" idea is that Paul and John both specifically predicted a spiritual apostasy with other writers eluding to it. Paul talked about the "grievous wolves" coming in and waylaying the flock and "evil men and seducers"...

Or, if you don't have time, feel free to question me about it risk free :) Differences of opinion shouldn't be a barrier to friendship - unless the friend thinks I should stop breathing or something LOL

I mean no offense, but I must preach against papal errors, DB. "It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no same man ought to raise the question. If it be not the popery in the Church of Rome, there is nothing in the world that can be...

Bless you! While the seven heads of Revelation 17 are shrouded in mystery, this interpretation seems to satisfy all the demands of the symbolism and includes all the beast characters of Revelation: Seven Heads: Babylon Medo Persia Greece Rome Papacy "One is" - seemingly wounded papacy (...is...

Hold on a sec, I'm not talking anything that is "other than" Biblical. I simply hold to the Biblical truth that the Man of Sin is not a "man" but a system, a kingdom, as the Bible describes the Antichrist. Do you agree that the Little Horn is not a system, a kingdom? If the 10 Horns are indeed...

Sorry, but this verse is far from ending the debate that the AC arises just before the Second Coming. If you read the entire passage, you'll see that it's telling us that the Man of Sin arises after the "Falling away" (Gr. "Apostasia") which means after the Great Apostasy - when Christians were...

Correction: you seem to think that we Historicists assign the identity of the Beast as the CC. That's what I meant to say. We don't. We say it is the papacy, the UNION of the catholic church and the secular state.

Me too, I like prince Titus, seeing that his father was an emperor king. But, number 2 is kinda like the story of "the boy who cried wolf" - we assign blame to the boy for his demise - even thought it was the wolf that killed him - because by his unwise actions he removed himself from his only...

You're too kind, Nancy! Just trying to get m' point across LOL

When it comes to compiling a categorical list of those who will be in the kingdom, we must consider other classes besides those who've specifically named Jesus as their Savior: Those who lived during the 2,500 years before the first Jew appeared. Those "Gentiles" who "have not the law (but) do...