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  1. Phoneman777

    Please Settle This Debate Between Phoneman777 And Bread of Life

    You mean these opportunistic pedophiles posing as Protestants who can wake up on Monday claiming to be "called of God" and by Tuesday be molesting the kids of empty-headed parents, who find fundamentalist churches "too strict and unloving"? Not the same as catholic priests who are supposed to be...
  2. Phoneman777

    Please Settle This Debate Between Phoneman777 And Bread of Life

    Here you are, Papist Bread. Took me all of two minutes to find it.
  3. Phoneman777

    Please Settle This Debate Between Phoneman777 And Bread of Life

    You mean like the papacy says "the Holy Scriptures must be thrown aside" if they contradict the word of the pope? Tyndale told Foxe no way, and they burned him at the stake for his trouble.
  4. Phoneman777

    Answering Predestination "Proof" Texts

    Would a woman hate the man who says he loves her, can't live without her, and asks to marry her...and then threatens to torment her unspeakably if she refuses? Then we shouldn't blame anyone for hating the god of Calvinism, of which Christianity is in absolutely no danger of worshiping above...
  5. Phoneman777

    Please Settle This Debate Between Phoneman777 And Bread of Life

    That's it...I'm reporting you to the nearest priest I can find that you refuse to acknowledge that Pius XII said the "mystical body of Christ and the Roman Catholic church are one in the same". I'll be in NOLA soon and there's a NAMBLA chapter on N. Rampart Street and I'm sure I can find one there.
  6. Phoneman777

    Please Settle This Debate Between Phoneman777 And Bread of Life

    Oh, right, secure the power of Satan, take over Christianity in the 5th century, plunge the entire Christian world into over a thousand years of PAPAL darkness by withholding the Bible and teaching for Bible doctrine such satanic heresies that are enough to make even paganism blush, actively run...
  7. Phoneman777

    Please Settle This Debate Between Phoneman777 And Bread of Life

    Papist Bread, we Protestants are awaiting your public apology for so long characterizing us as illegitimately and foolishly utilizing "Roman Catholic Church" to refer to the Roman catholic church, since you've been shown clearly by this thread that such reference is wholly in harmony with your...
  8. Phoneman777

    Answering Predestination "Proof" Texts

    I see the crux of the issue: Calvinists view God as a Dictator rather than the Gentleman He is. All through the OT and NT, more than anything, we find the exercise of faith encouraged, practiced, and rewarded. Did not the Zidonian widow exercise her faith in Elijah while relying on nothing but...
  9. Phoneman777

    The Unclothed State (2 Cor. 5:4)

    I'm not seeing any words to indicate "naked" and "clothed" have anything to do with righteousness in this passage, but clear reference in verse 2 to what kind of clothing to which Paul is referring: A HOUSE BODY. What you are doing is adding to Scripture an idea Paul absolutely does not say...
  10. Phoneman777

    Answering Predestination "Proof" Texts

    You're givin me a toothache, Nancy :)
  11. Phoneman777

    Answering Predestination "Proof" Texts

    Can you please elaborate on how rejecting the Calvinist view of predestination demands God save self-righteous people, which if true would certainly demand we accept Calvinism.
  12. Phoneman777

    Answering Predestination "Proof" Texts

    The contexts may be different but the concepts are identical.
  13. Phoneman777

    Answering Predestination "Proof" Texts

    Well said, especially the part about "predestination" taking place only AFTER His foreknowledge of those who would accept His gift.
  14. Phoneman777

    Limited atonement means salvation by grace. Universal atonement means salvation by works.

    I agree with that, but the terms "Old Covenant" and "Ten Commandments" cannot possibly be synonymous, or we'd be able to use them interchangeably, which Romans 3:31 will not allow because we Christians do not "establish the Law Old Covenant". The Old Covenant was abolished, but the components...
  15. Phoneman777

    Limited atonement means salvation by grace. Universal atonement means salvation by works.

    Yes, the Law of Moses had a beginning and an end, but Psalms 111:7-8 essentially says the Ten Commandments stand fast forever and ever and are done in truth and uprightness" so that means they were given without expiration, so how can they be said to have an expiration like the Law of Moses is...
  16. Phoneman777

    Limited atonement means salvation by grace. Universal atonement means salvation by works.

    Lets concentrate on Psalms 111:7-8 which was written after Sinai, OK? Now, if Psalms 111:7-8 says the commandments which God wrote with His hands - namely the Ten Commandments on stone cut out with His hands and written with His finger - will "stand fast forever and ever and are done in truth...
  17. Phoneman777

    Answering Predestination "Proof" Texts

    You've already said that. I get that. OK, could you share exactly what line of reasoning renders my interpretation wrong which says that Jesus' idea of "hate" towards our loved ones is the exact same idea of hate that God had toward Esau: which is "prefer less the one less than the other"?
  18. Phoneman777

    Limited atonement means salvation by grace. Universal atonement means salvation by works.

    But if I adopt your position that the Ten Commandments are "expired", what am I supposed to do with Psalms 111:7-8 which says the exact opposite: that the commandments which God wrote with His hands - the Ten Commandments - will never expire as long as time shall last?
  19. Phoneman777

    The Unclothed State (2 Cor. 5:4)

    I think he used those words to convey not doubt, but struggle, just as when he talked about the importance of keeping his body under submission, lest "after I have preached to others, I myself be found a castaway". Are you suggesting a third resurrection option exists? As far as i know...