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  1. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    The filth with which Antinomianists clothe themselves is not the righteousness of Christ, but a filth stained garment of dis-grace sewn by a forked-tongued tailor.
  2. Phoneman777

    Seventh Day Adventist Beliefs

    Do you not understand that the "books" used in the Judgment includes the Book of Life and those whose names are written therein? Did you never read where Paul says: "WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE must ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL STAND BEFORE THE JUDGEMENT SEAT OF...
  3. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Look, none of us like it when a formidable challenge is presented to our cherished beliefs. I'm a firm believer in the use of sarcasm and demonstrating absurdity by being absurd to make a point, but your insults are uncalled for. Please stop. "AGAINST HERESIES" PROOF THAT IRENAEUS expected the...
  4. Phoneman777

    Hermeneutics vs. "Herd-meneutics"

    Fully agree with all this. What's the point of this calculation?
  5. Phoneman777

    Hermeneutics vs. "Herd-meneutics"

    Yes, Historicism always agrees with Scripture.
  6. Phoneman777

    Hermeneutics vs. "Herd-meneutics"

    Bro, I've got SEVERAL PRECEDENTS set for the "each day for a year" principle. You've not got a single precedent for your Jesuit "gap" theory in Daniel 9. Can you see why it's difficult for me to accept your criteria?
  7. Phoneman777

    Seventh Day Adventist Beliefs

    No no, the "rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years were finished". It is only then that "every eye shall see Him, even they that pierced Him"..the wicked who rise in the resurrection of the damned as the city descends and the righteous who will be watching from inside the city as it...
  8. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Jesus said the AOD was still future. Your Mac daddy says otherwise. You choose to believe the Mac daddy, just like Adam and Eve chose to believe the serpent. I'm DONE.
  9. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Please, it was you who claimed the ECFs were Futurists, and I've shown you that all of them - including Irenaeus - believed that as soon as the Roman Empire fell, the Antichrist would arise - textbook Protestant Historicist. You have yet to produce even ONE WORD FROM AN ECF where he expected...
  10. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    "It is the bounden duty of the Christian to pray against Antichrist. And as to what Antichrist is, no sane man ought to raise the question: if it be not the popery in Rome, there is no other institution that may be called by that name..." - Charles Spurgeon. I'm in good company...like with...
  11. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    I think you're missing the main point: Irenaeus may have believed the temple in which the Antichrist would sit was a literal temple, but the fact is that he believed that just after the fall of Pagan Rome into the ten horn divisions, the "Little horn" Antichrist would arise among those ten...
  12. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    It is a commonly used expression even to this day that "sitting" refers to "authority" as in "a sitting President" which doesn't mean "sitting down" but means "in charge". If ever there was a description of one who is "large and in charge" it is that of the Man of Sin papal Antichrist which...
  13. Phoneman777

    Hermeneutics vs. "Herd-meneutics"

    Here's a list of ECFs and what they taught about the Antichrist's rise soon after the fall of the Roman Empire, which would then allow for its rise: Tertulliun, 2nd - 3rd century: "...he who now hinders must hinder until he be taken out of the way" What obstacle is there but the Roman State...
  14. Phoneman777

    Hermeneutics vs. "Herd-meneutics"

    I had several on my old computer but it crashed and I lost a lot, so I'll have to dig up some. They're forthcoming
  15. Phoneman777

    Seventh Day Adventist Beliefs

    That's not the Second Coming. The only way "every eye shall see Him" is when everyone who ever was born is alive. That will be after the thousand years when New Jerusalem, in which the saints have been reigning with Christ for the past 1,000 years, is transported to its new permanent home on...
  16. Phoneman777

    Seventh Day Adventist Beliefs

    Got news for you, MJH: we're ALL going to be judged by our works, not our words. Anybody can say "I love Jesus" but Jesus said, "If ye love Me, keep My commandments". He also said He will declare "Depart from Me" to those who work "iniquity" - deliberate sin, which will be made evident in the...
  17. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Yes, Antinomianists freely cover themselves in that which made necessary the suffering and death of our dear Lord while proclaiming "Freedom in Christ to cover myself it this filth!"
  18. Phoneman777

    Hermeneutics vs. "Herd-meneutics"

    False equivalence. A unanimous unjust condemnation of Jesus for personal gain is not the same thing as an objective unanimous testimony of events of church history - namely that the legacy of Paul's teaching about the restrainer was that it was the Roman Empire. 2:5 Remember ye not, that...
  19. Phoneman777

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    OK, Jesus is lying and the Mac daddy is telling the truth. I'm done.