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  1. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    I believe the Bible teaches that the Second Coming and the Gathering of the Saints to Himself happen simultaneously on the same day, not two events separated by 7 years. In other words, when Jesus comes and descends to a "low Earth orbit" and circles around the Globe as every eye beholds Him...
  2. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    Again, with the corrupted version. The Textus Receptus says, “...confident and willing to be absent from the body and present with the Lord” which in no way suggest that the one immediately follows the other. The evidence right there in the middle of the passage, which you and everyone else have...
  3. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    Why does God refer to the First Death as “sleep”? Because it's TEMPORARY. The Soul ceases to exist, but this circumstance is temporary, and thus the Soul is not “destroyed” in the strictest sense, for God will raise it up in order to stand in the Judgment. The Second Death is PERMANENT – a death...
  4. Phoneman777

    The Interpretation of the Rich Man and Lazarus Parable

    I gave a summary of the plain reading of the text. If it's a literal account of two dead men, then it overthrows much of what the Bible plainly says elsewhere about death and eschatology. If it's a symbolic parable, then we must recognize that Jesus used symbolism which must be interpreted.
  5. Phoneman777

    Rest In Your Residency

    Not sure what you mean, but if you mean that Jesus is not our Lord to Whom our obedience is not an option (Luke 6:46 KJV), then I disagree. You can't have Jesus as your Savior without having Him as your Lord. To argue this is so is to argue in favor of both Jesus and Satan having joint custody...
  6. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    1) "Robbery" is hardly an appropriate translation of "harpazo", which actually means "to seize" or "to snatch" b/c "robbery" suggests a degree of injustice on the part of the one who lays siege to a thing when that might not necessarily be the case. Would you argue that the act of a father...
  7. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    Friend, I have to say that there are absolutely no Biblical reasons to support the idea of consciousness in death whatsoever. If you believe you have some, please present them one at a time and we can discuss them. I think we all agree that "sleep is a Biblical metaphor of death" based on what...
  8. Phoneman777

    Rest In Your Residency

    Everyone agrees that Christians are to keep the "spirit of the law". The "letter of the law" forbids adultery and the "spirit of the law" forbids looking in lust. The "letter of the law" forbids murder and the "spirit of the law" forbids unjust anger. The "letter of the law" forbids false...
  9. Phoneman777

    The Interpretation of the Rich Man and Lazarus Parable

    Content is what determines if a passage is parabolic or not. Therefore, to claim there is nothing parabolic in Luke 16 is to claim that the dead possess knowledge and emotions, can develop strategy, already possess bodies BEFORE they are given them when Jesus returns, are able to talk to each...
  10. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    The issue here is "bring with Him", and many many believe this to mean as you do - "bring with Jesus from heaven at his Second Coming" which leads to an assumption that the dead are already in heaven now. Let's examine "bring with Him": This text forms a Hebrew Chiasm - Hebrew poetry - and...
  11. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    You Catholics are so Biblically illiterate that you should be required to pass an elementary entrance exam before entering a Bible debate. What part of "WHO (GOD) ONLY HATH IMMORTALITY" (1 Timothy 6:16 KJV) do you not understand? You criticize others for failing to grasp your so called Greek...
  12. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    No, Kepha, soul sleep is Biblical. Your doctrine comes from the mouth of the serpent in the garden when he said "Ye shall not surely die" and that is EXACTLY what Catholicism and most of apostate Protestantism teaches: that while you're laying their in the casket in the front of the church dead...
  13. Phoneman777

    Can you lose your salvation?

    The question boils down to this: Does Salvation change (cleanse) me, or does it just change (cleanse) God's opinion of sin in me? OSAS is just a vain attempt to obtain by dead faith that which only can be obtained by living faith - eternal life.
  14. Phoneman777

    Can you lose your salvation?

    Great testimony, my friend. Always good to hear when the saints gain the victory over besetting sins. There is a prevailing error that claims grace is a license for us to keep on sinning without fear of losing our eternal reward. However, Jesus taught otherwise. "Go and sin no more" is what He...
  15. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    The doctrine of "consciousness in death" is not in the Bible. It was invented by Satanic paganism and dragged into Christianity by the RCC. The Bible knows NOTHING of this doctrine. The wisest man who ever lived settled the issue around 1,000 years before Christ when he wrote the following...
  16. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    The "armies of heaven" are the angels coming with Jesus at His Second Coming. The 'great multitude' are the redeemed in heaven AFTER Jesus comes back to take them there.
  17. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    Only in the mind of mortals. In God's mind, "destroyed" means permanence.
  18. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    What flaws?
  19. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    Yes, the seven are not the same as the last. The seventh trumpet marks the end of Christ's High Priestly ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary and commences His reign as Eternal King - when He takes off His Priestly robes and puts on His Kingly robes and begins the journey back to Earth in His...
  20. Phoneman777

    Soul sleep

    The resurrection happens when Jesus comes back when the Lord's Trumpet is sounded: "For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel, and with the trumpet of God." "In a moment, in a twinkling of the eye, at the last trump; For the trumpet shall...