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  1. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    It was more a public comment than private. Though myself and others are deliberately accused of teaching otherwise, it is my firm belief that anyone who thinks they can earn salvation essentially believes that 2,000 years ago, God looked down on Earth and said, "This sacrifice of My Son to...
  2. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Why would Satan work so hard to distort the Gospel or keep as many people from hearing the Gospel if he didn't think Jesus offers salvation? Obviously, because he believes every word of the truth, power, and efficacy of that Gospel to change the hearts of his servants into born-again servants of...
  3. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    That is a presumptuous claim - the Bible is silent on whether Satan was offered pardon. However, if John 14:9 KJV and 2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV are any basis for an assumption, then we can assume that God most definitely did. The story of David and Absalom is also a picture of that heavenly...
  4. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    I agree with that. We are saved by grace but we are judged by our works for our works indicate whether or not we have been saved.
  5. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    A "commitment to believe in Jesus as Savior" without repentance from sin and daily surrender to Him is insufficient, for the devils also believe that Jesus is Savior, yet they tremble if fear of their coming demise, according to Acts 16:17 KJV and James 2:19 KJV.
  6. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    You have no answer for Jesus' and Isaiah's proclamation that Israel would be destroyed and cast out of the kingdom and replaced by Gentiles? Why not? As for your "proof text" that the "Times of the Gentiles" refers to occupation of the ancient land by non-Jews until 1948, that period refers to...
  7. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Friend, Dispensationalism is a made up 19th century error by J. N. Darby who also gave us the error of the "Secret Rapture". The Jews are no longer "God's chosen". Jesus said Gentiles would come from the "east, west, north, south while you yourselves (Israel) shall be cast out". Paul puts it...
  8. Phoneman777

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Friend, what part of "thinking they will be heard for their MUCH SPEAKING" do you not get? "MUCH SPEAKING" is that which makes the prayer vain because "repetition" is the result of "MUCH SPEAKING".
  9. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    I think you fail to realize that this Covenant mentioned here is the only covenant in the NT and you will search in vain for a so called "Gentile Covenant". The "Israel" God speaks of in this Covenant has nothing to do with "literal Israel", but "spiritual Israel" - what Paul says we become...
  10. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    What's the definition of the New Covenant? Hint: Hebrew 8:8-10 KJV
  11. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Happy to clarify: keep the eternal Law that God wrote on stone (Psalm 111:7-8 KJV) because if you break one, you're guilty of all. Anybody who says "I can't keep the law" demonstrates the same lack of faith as a woman hanging out of the window of a burning building who is too faithless to jump...
  12. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    It seems you've taken my proof text, incorrectly interpreted it, and then argued against what I never said in the first place. However, I'm a very patient man, so I'm happy to clarify for you: 1 John 2:3-4 KJV is not a test used to evaluate the Christianity of other people - it is a test in...
  13. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    If you're not going to address my texts, then this is pointless, friend. The Bible is not a buffet line, where we pick and choose what we like. Again, "he that saith, "I know Him" and keepeth not His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him." If you're next post does not address this...
  14. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Mjrhealth, it seems that from this you believe "obedience" means "to have faith", but that is not so. James never said faith was obedience, he said that he demonstrated his faith by obedience (by not committing adultery or killing, his obvious reference to the Ten Commandments) No, giving up...
  15. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Yes, not under the condemnation of it, on condition that we cease from breaking it.
  16. Phoneman777

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Well, you're right, He didn't explicitly condemn it, but if you research into the pagan practice, you'll discover that vain, repetitious prayer has its origins in ancient pagan occultism. It is effectively a form of "self-hypnosis" where the mind is "opened to the spirit" where communication and...
  17. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    It seems you've written another chapter in your epic, "Straw Men of the Bible" :) No one is arguing salvation by works, because without Christ it's impossible for any man to render work acceptable in the sight of God. However, Christ in us and the salvation He brings is both pardon for repented...
  18. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    It says that we are not under law but under grace. However, if we stop there and fail to read on, we will be left with a misconception about what "not under law but under grace" means: Romans 6:15-16 KJV : "What then, shall we (saints) sin, because we (saints) are not under law but under...
  19. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Sorry, I don't buy into Darby's Dispensationalism or any subsequent variation of it because it violates Scripture by differentiating between "Jew and Gentile" when Paul says plainly that we are all one in Christ. He also said to the Romans (clearly not Jews) that the OT texts are "for our...
  20. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Sorry, friend, but your doctrine doesn't stand the test of Biblical scrutiny. Proverbs 28:13 KJV speaks of two classes, to which we belong to one or the other: the one class who tries to cover up their sin (with concealment, denial, God's grace, etc.) gets no mercy. the other class which is...